In a message dated 3/18/2001 10:55:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, mmdeforrest@worldnet.att.net writes: << Automatons: http://home.att.net/~mmdeforrest/deadlands/bot.htm Devil Bats: http://home.att.net/~mmdeforrest/deadlands/dbats.jpg Hope this helps. Matt >> Matt, These two dont work just so you all know. The main link works just use that one and hit his Miniatures link. :-) Grimm