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Re: [DL] Combat question




on backing up, if the shooter backs up and fails the contest of fighting, 
he's hit automatically?

>From: Dirk <darklord@dark-sky.net>
>Reply-To: deadlands@gamerz.net
>To: deadlands@gamerz.net
>Subject: Re: [DL] Combat question
>Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 00:13:21 -0400
>
>This was covered in the rules update in Waste Warriors (pg 81) for HOE:
>
>Firearms in Melee
>  Shooting someone who is trying to knock your head in with a pipe can be
>hard. Unless the defending gunman has a melee weapon out, he can only 
>defend
>with fightin brawlin or martial arts. He can only attack a waster who is up
>close and personal with a pistol or other small firearm. He must use his
>fightin brawlin to hit instead of shootin.
>  The shooter can also back up for a shot. This requires the gunman to have
>pace remaining and to win a contest of fightin. If the shooter loses the
>contest, he still backs up but his opponent gets to inflict melee damage on
>him as he does so.
>
>That about sums it up.  And yes, before anyone asks, HOE and WWest both use
>the exact same rules now.  This is stated on page 37 of Waste Warriors.
>
>Hope that helps.
>
>--Dirk
>
>Munch Wolf wrote:
>
> > I know this has probably been asked before, but with
> > the archives down it makes it hard to find the answer.
> >
> > The old saying is never bring a knife to a gun fight,
> > and Deadlands reflects that by having shooting guns in
> > combat easier than brawling, but what do you do if
> > someone is trying to wrestle with a gun weildier?
> > Does it make the shooting harder?  Logic would dictact
> > yes, but the game mechanics don't really reflect that.
> >
> > Example from a session I ran:  One player fired a
> > bunch of shots with a rifle into a charging vamp.
> > Eventually the vamp was in his face clawing and
> > biting.  The player continued to shoot, and even
> > attempted a called shot to the head.  He then tried to
> > argue the vamp couldn't bite him anymore because he
> > had a rifle in his face.  I bit him anyway.  In this
> > case I could see the vamp getting his brawling skill
> > as a defensive bonus (but I didn't think of it at the
> > time).  Has anyone else had a similar situation?
> >
> > -Munch Wolf
> >
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