Re: [HoE] Re: Templar Observations (Redux)

["Steve Crow" <crow_steve@hotmail.com>]

>Steve, man, you ought to change your nickname to "Can't Pin Me Down." ;-)
>

Well it's more that I didn't want to bore people with describing every 
single point.  Although I suppose I've ended up doing that anyway, albeit 
piecemeal.  :)

>After the latest round, it sounds like my original impression was probably 
>closer to the
>truth. He actually attacked posse members?
>
>Remember, this all my opinion...
>
>No Greater Reward, says I.
>

Would agree.  Or at best, let him "redeem" himself to get it.  Not have to 
participate in another Legend Chip-adventure, just devote himself 
particularly to helping children/innocents or some such.

>It doesn't really matter (again, IMO) what his justifications were if he 
>attacked his fellow
>posse members who were _trying_ to defeat the menace. Regardless of his 
>thoughts on the
>guilt or innocence of the child--as well as how the player interprets his 
>Templar
>duties--presumably, the posse has proven itself worthy of his assistance. 
>Otherwise, how
>does he justify traveling/fighting alongside them in the first place. They 
>_were_ fighting
>on their own behalf; he turned his sword/pistol/what-have-you on them.
>

It's a tough call there, and one of those things where you had to be there.  
I'm not sure I'd say he was trying to attack the posse per se.  More that he 
was trying to attack (with intent to kill) the girl.  And the posse were 
holding/carrying the girl.  And they...well, got in the way.  One character 
was badly wounded while inserting himself between the Templar and the girl 
(using his Fightin' to block/parry, essentially).

>While there may be a gray area as to a Templar's guidelines, Jo pretty 
>clearly states it as
>"..the purpose of the Templars is to guard the pilgrims." Pilgrims are 
>"...just good people.
>If they're able, they also have to be strong." If his posse isn't composed 
>of "pilgrims" why
>does he hang out with them? If they are, then he really stepped on his 
>crank turning his
>weapons against them.
>

That will probably be something to point out.  Not sure if another Templar 
will step in to do so (as you mention below), or if Stern or someone will 
drop the word when he gets "told" (in a dream) about his lack of a Greater 
Reward.

>If he was so strongly opposed to the posse's plan, he would have been 
>better served looking
>for an opportunity to croak the "servitor" later--rather than in the heat 
>of the battle and
>when she was protected by his comrades. He could have killed a worthy hero 
>through his
>actions--which, BTW, he took of his own free will. That's a step towards 
>Servitorship in my
>book.
>
>You said you'd already done the draw for a Servitor mutation and no Joker 
>came up--that's
>cool. (Like I mentioned, I don't draw for a Joker--I skip that step 
>entirely and pull for
>the mutation. But that's just me.) I would definitely have word reach 
>another Templar who
>approaches the character and points out the concerns I noted above. Not a 
>blackball, just
>the quiet warning noted on page 39 of TLC.
>

In retrospect, I'm not sure I'm big on the whole mutation thing.  If so, it 
would probably be War rather than Death (since he was violent and 
bloodthirsty, but didn't actually kill anyone, the former seems more 
appropriate).

I just don't see how the word is going to get out overly much, though.  The 
group ain't discussing it with outsiders, and some of the intent was either 
thought but not acted upon, or discussed out-of-character.  I really hate 
interjecting an omnipotent NPC to hear about it.  More of a style issue on 
my part than an absolute - I just prefer to keep the Wasted West relatively 
sparse in population, and communication at a premium.

But appreciate the suggestions.

>John Goff
>
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