Re: [HOE] Faith and Protection

["doyle erin west" <westfam@the-i.net>]

I agree, But I couldn't put it so well.  : )  why make templars and doom
sayers more powerful than they already are?
----- Original Message -----
From: <toadpooka@juno.com>
To: <hoe@gamerz.net>
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 3:35 AM
Subject: Re: [HOE] Faith and Protection


> Da Baron brings up another good point, and one which I thought I was the
> only one that remembered it.  One of the unfortunate carry-overs that the
> Storyteller system has brought on roleplaying in general, in addition to
> people saying "botch" instead of "go bust,' is the idea that special
> powers granted by faith are the result in belief, and not by an
> intervening hand.  In the Storyteller system, this means that anyone
> insane enough to have an undying faith to their shoe can get powers from
> it.
> However, in Deadlands, Blessed powers are caused by the particular diety
> intervening.  The librarians don't believe in a deity, and neither do the
> Templars.  They have faith in ideals, causes and concepts, but there's
> not a Big Librarian In The Sky helping out all the little shusshers on
> the ground.
> Now, Fire & Brimstone says that people who have Faith in religion X gain
> miracle/gift Y for free.  Since there's nothing that says when X equals
> Templar, Doomsayer or Librarian, Y equals Protection, I'd give that a big
> No in my game, and I'd reccommend that any other Marshal do the same.
> I'd imagine that if you asked a Doomsayer what gift The Glow gives to its
> believers, they'd say that the mutation is it.  Templars would say that
> just thinking one way doesn't prove anything, and you have to get off
> your ass and prove yourself to the Martyrs to get any payback.  I don't
> know what a Librarian would say, other than, "please don't take my lunch
> money, Mr Big Bad Bully."
>
> On Tue, 05 Dec 2000 01:45:48 -0500 The Baron Samedi <baron11@netmcr.com>
> writes:
> > At 01:33 AM 12/5/2000, you wrote:
> > >basically, coming back to the original post (which I can't find) it
> > comes down to a Marshal's call.  Are the beliefs in the
> > cause/saints/whatever strong enough to warrant a Protection miracle,
> and would it apply?
> > I don't think the Convoy example given would, but the librarians might.
>
> > Templars, i think, have enough help.
> >
> > Yes, but remember in Deadlands, the power does not come from the
> > Belief,  but the existing divine force.
>
> --
> From Whom It May Concern,
> Rich Ranallo
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