Re: [HOE] DL periphernalia

[Michael Watson <mwatson1@bigpond.net.au>]

At 12:37 AM 17/05/02, Dusarat@aol.com wrote:

> >As opposed to a $25 D20 book.  Plus a couple of $25-$30 AD&D >books 
> (Player's Guide & DM's Guide for the Marshalls).
>
>
>What are you guys on?  To play D20, you need
>Player's handbook (25$)
>And six dice (d4, d6, d8, d10, d12, d20).

I am unfamiliar with the latest incarnation of the d20 system, so excuse my 
basic questions :-)

1. Is the DM's guide not necessary? I got the impression it was one of the 
core books
2. Does damage still often consist of xdx? as in 3d6?

cheers for any answers :-)

>And that' what you need.  More makes the game run smoother, but that's 
>what you need since you don't spend much time rolling more than one die at 
>a time (Especially in combat).  The rest is just source material.
>
>For HoE you need
>-1 30$ book,
>-One of every kind of dice is NOT going to cut it since you roll dice in 
>groups of four or five, you need at least three of every kind
>-A set of poker chips
>-Two decks of playing cards
>-An opaque container to be used as a 'fate pot'
>(You can 'manage' without fate chips, but approximating them with a die 
>roll is a bit cumbersome)
>        And as someone who just recently had to get a HoE campaign 
> together from scratch, I'll say that my #1 problem with all of this was 
> that these items are not sold in the same place.

My group had all of this lying around ;-) Maybe we just have more junk than 
most people. hehehe I can imagine it would be difficult to find all of this 
stuff in one place, but I would have thought you could buy a poker set that 
had a few decks of cards and a set of chips for gambling. That's where I 
think we got ours from.

>      It's a fun system, but give credit where credit is due.  HoE is good 
> for the mood of the game, but the system is very complex (A thug shoots 
> at your Templar, dice will be rolled five times before the attack is 
> resolved, To hit, location, damage, stun check, wind loss).
>     A goblin takes a swing at your paladin, two dice are rolled, a D20 
> for hit and a D4 for damage, and if you roll them at the same time, it 
> takes even less time.
>
>     Cmon guys, see the system for what it is.  Fun? Yes.  Simple, 
> streamlined, and intuitive?  No.

Fun is what it is about though isn't it? Does d20 still have thac0? I 
always thought that thac0 was less intuitive than systems where you have a 
target number you need to beat. There is always a trade off between speed 
and being descriptive which is what I see DL combat being. But that is just 
a personal preference. I usually see my combat as a slow motion bullet time 
experience rather than a quake deathmatch ;-)

- michael


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