RE: [PyrNet-L] Shock Collar Information

["Ferreira, Elaine" <FerreiraE@aetna.com>]

It's a legitimate question and one that I thought about. However, one cannot
protect against all eventualities. I had to make a decision to address the
immediate problem of his barking against the obscure possibility that
someone might be determined enough ignore the Beware of Dog sign and the
enormous rawhide chews and doggy toys hanging around the yard to break into
my house. If you start thinking like that, you could make the argument that
anyone who crates their dog is endangering them by preventing their escape
in the event of a fire.  

By the way, the collar I purchased does not kick in for warning barks, it
only works for a continuous volley. 

> ----------
> From: 	Jaime Stathis[SMTP:jstathis@andover.edu]
> Reply To: 	pyrnet-l@pyrnet.org
> Sent: 	Tuesday, November 02, 1999 8:53 AM
> To: 	pyrnet-l@pyrnet.org
> Subject: 	RE: [PyrNet-L] Shock Collar Information
> 
> i am not criticizing, just asking...so now that garth understands how the
> shock collar works he won't bark if he has it on.  do you think he would
> also not bark if someone was breaking into your house, or do you think he
> would take the pain to protect his (and your!) home?
> 
> again, not criquing, just curious...!
> 
> At 08:37 AM 11/02/1999 -0500, you wrote:
> >	I purchased one of the electronic collars to keep my GP from barking
> >up a storm every time I left the house. I had tried all kinds of methods
> to
> >keep him from barking, including a squirt gun, rattle can and a high
> >frequency collar (generated a high-pitched tone when he barked), but he
> was
> >very determined. The collar had 5 levels of stimulation and I tested the
> >highest and lowest on myself to see exactly what the sensation was. It
> was a
> >shock, but not painful, more of a surprise. 
> >	I used it on Garth at the lowest level and had to put it up to 3
> >before it broke the barking cycle. I used it whenever I left the house
> and
> >within a week he was not even testing it. For the last couple years I had
> >him, the battery was not charged, but he still knew that when I put that
> >collar on him, it was time to be quiet.   
> >	I don't think any dog owner wants to use devices of this type, but
> >they are very effective training aids when used properly. 
> >	I also think it is important to remember that this is an open forum
> >for discussion. We all love our fluffies. We may not agree that someone
> >else's methods are best, but we should not scare people away from open
> and
> >honest communication.   
> >
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> >> From: 	Pacerized@aol.com[SMTP:Pacerized@aol.com]
> >> Reply To: 	pyrnet-l@pyrnet.org
> >> Sent: 	Monday, November 01, 1999 10:38 PM
> >> To: 	pyrnet-l@pyrnet.org
> >> Subject: 	Re: [PyrNet-L] Shock Collar Information
> >> 
> >>     I don't see anything at all wrong with what your doing.  You've
> gotten
> >> 
> >> the results you're looking for, and it sounds like your pyr has a
> happier 
> >> life in the end.   I've often thought of trying this myself,  I've just
> >> been 
> >> hesitant to make the $100 + investment if it didn't work.   Right now
> I'm 
> >> using a sound collar ( which is far less expensive) to try to curb my
> >> girls 
> >> barking; so far two weeks into it it has some beneficial effect,
> although 
> >> it's not effective enough that I'd recommend it.  I may eventually try
> the
> >> 
> >> shock collar myself.  
> >> 
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