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Hi All,
I am a new Pyr-digest member and I have a question I hope someone can help
me with. What is the recommended age to start using a male dog for breeding?
All the books I have mention age for a female but nothing for a male. I have
1 female named Willow that is 1 1/2 years old and will be getting a male in
March of this year.I will be breeding Willow in June but not to this male
puppy I am getting. Does anyone know the best age for males? Diana
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>
> [PyrNet-L] CHAT, EVENTS: 3d PROGRESS espinay@dynamite.com.au
> [PyrNet-L] Pyrs and the Latest Ice Dancingpyr@aol.com
> Re: [PyrNet-L] Pyrs and the Latest I clhenke@juno.com
> Re: [PyrNet-L] Pyrs and the Latest I Kiradaw@aol.com
> Re: [PyrNet-L] Pyrs and the Latest I Kiradaw@aol.com
> [PyrNet-L] Anais shedding srwhitney@earthlink.net
> Re: [PyrNet-L] Anais shedding D3melza@aol.com
> Re: [PyrNet-L] Anais shedding dneal@scan.missouri.org
> Re: [PyrNet-L] Anais shedding clhenke@juno.com
> Re: [PyrNet-L] Anais shedding bamb@monmouth.com
> Re: [PyrNet-L] Pyrs and the Latest I Dancingpyr@aol.com
> Re: [PyrNet-L] Anais shedding srwhitney@earthlink.net
> Re: [PyrNet-L] Anais shedding Tfrench11@aol.com
> RE: [PyrNet-L] Anais shedding avignon@bond.net
> [PyrNet-L] Anais shedding ARIEGE@xtra.co.nz
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> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:03:29 +1100
> From: espinay@dynamite.com.au
> Subject: [PyrNet-L] CHAT, EVENTS: 3d PROGRESS REPORT "2000 WORLD
CONFERENCE"
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> Here is the latest report on progress for the World Conference in
Melbourne,
> Australia in November.
>
> Tracy Bassett
> Canberra, Australia
> espinay@dynamite.com.au
> visit my webpage at http://members.dynamite.com.au/espinay/index.htm
>
>
>
> >>30/1/0 Page
> 1.
> >>
> >>Dear Pyr-lover,
> >>
> >>3d PROGRESS REPORT "2000 WORLD CONFERENCE"
> >>
> >>As we are moving closer to D - DAY ( 2d & 3d November 2000) I would like
> >>to inform you regarding our Draft Agenda, which was first circulated
world
> >>wide by email and the International Magazine for PMD's in June 1999, as
> >>eight items were than suggested. Many responding replies have been
> >>received for same and the Conference Committee would like to thank all
> >>those Pyr-lovers, who supported same.
> >>
> >>AGENDA FOR SECOND WORLD CONFERENCE (2D & 3D NOV.2000)
> >>(Official closing date for amendments or additional items is 1st JULY
> 2000 )
> >>
> >>1. MASTER OF CEREMONIES (MAL KIRKLAND, editor & public relation officer
> >>PMDC of Vic.Inc.)
> >>
> >>2. OPENING OF CONFERENCE (PRESIDENT PMDC of Vic.Inc.)
> >>
> >>3. Apologies.
> >>
> >>4. Correspondence.
> >>
> >>5. Debate/acceptance/formation/selection of "World Committee"
> >>
> >>6. Nutrition & Health care. (By the well known Dr Robert Brown D.V.M.
from
> >>the U.S.A.) and anecdotal by Valerie Johnson USA.
> >>
> >>7. Debating/discussions, of the values for "ONE WORLD STANDARD" instead
of
> >>three breed standards. (Speakers : Mr. Robert Brown D.V.M., Eddy Van Eck
> >>J.P. and Keith Savage (Chairman PMDC of G.B.).
> >>
> >>8. Debating/discussions/implementation of Compulsory identification
(Micro
> >>chip/Tattoo) world wide
> >>
> >>9.Debating/discussions, of the values for "Code of Ethics/Practices.
> >>
> >> Page
> 2.
> >>
> >>10. Debating/discussions regarding " Qualifications of Judges"
> >>
> >>
> >>11. Debating/discussions, regarding the values of the "Pyr in the Show
> >>ring" and "Pyr as Companion animal (Pet)"
> >>
> >>12. Debating/discussions regarding "Kennel Blindness"
> >>
> >>For items 9 to 12 we are still seeking speakers ? So lets here from you
!!
> >>Minutes will be recorded as a true record for future World Conferences.
> >>
> >>For those, who haven't been aware of the "SECOND WORLD CONFERENCE"
please
> >>let us know by Fax or Email, so we can supply you with all the backdated
> >>circulations regarding same.
> >>
> >>Eddy Van Eck J.P. (President PMDC of Vic.Inc.)
> >>Fax/Phone : 61-3-97764589
> >>Email : andorra@ozonline.com.au
> >>
> >>
> >>>Visit our Websites:
> >>>World Conference URL: http://www.padache.com.au/kaynine/pyrclub.htm
> >>>
> >>>http://www.freeyellow.com/members3/andorra/page6.html
> >>>
> >>>http://www.padache.com.au/kaynine/andorrap.htm
> >>
> >>.
> >
> >>Visit our Websites:
> >>World Conference URL: http://www.padache.com.au/kaynine/pyrclub.htm
> >>
> >>http://www.freeyellow.com/members3/andorra/page6.html
> >>
> >>http://www.padache.com.au/kaynine/andorrap.htm
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 08:26:29 EST
> From: Dancingpyr@aol.com
> Subject: [PyrNet-L] Pyrs and the Latest Ice
>
> Well, Cindy, and all you folks in the TX, OK area -- we got your ice now!
> Came in yesterday, but our area wasn't as hard hit as some. There's about
an
> 1/8" - 1/4" of ice on everything, enough to make it dangerous. When I let
> our guys out this morning, they took it all in stride. Even Zoe has
gotten
> her "ice legs". Last Monday when I let her out, we had a layer of ice
over
> the snow. She went to her favourite place to do her business, and when
she
> went to squat, her front legs went out from under her. What a surprised
look
> she had on her face! But I don't think it was as surprised as my geese.
I
> let them out for the first time on Tuesday, and they wound up sliding
their
> fat behinds down the pasture! Once they got to the grassy part, it was
OK.
>
> Robyn
> dancingpyr@aol.com
> Taylors, SC
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 07:58:28 -0600
> From: clhenke@juno.com
> Subject: Re: [PyrNet-L] Pyrs and the Latest Ice
>
> Robyn, had to chuckle at your ice stories, our geese were very similar,
> after the initial surprised first slide, they seemed to get into the
> slip-sliding around and acted like they enjoyed it. I think it was the
> hard ice coating that made our dogs less likely to enjoy it, if they just
> had real snow I think the experience would have been different for them.
> They went dashing out so fast, and we are yelling
> " slow down, watch the ice on the steps ". I tend to open the door and
> let them feed out one at a time, hubby throws the door open. They just
> about killed each other falling down the icy steps. We are still trying
> to get the remains melted, and that's a long time on the ground for Tx.
> I have a friend that is moving to northern Georgia and is trying to get
> her house built. Things are not going well for her along those lines.
> Just really strange weather. I feel for you Robyn, can't believe your
> getting so blitzed over there! How is it for getting out to deal with
> the horses? Cindy
>
>
> Cindy Henke
> clhenke@juno.com
> Ennis, Texas
>
> "All knowledge, the totality of all questions and answers, is contained
> in the dog." ~ Franz Kafka
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 10:44:37 EST
> From: Kiradaw@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [PyrNet-L] Pyrs and the Latest Ice
>
> In a message dated 1/30/00 8:31:58 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> Dancingpyr@aol.com writes:
>
> << She went to her favourite place to do her business, and when she
> went to squat, her front legs went out from under her. What a surprised
> look
> she had on her face! But I don't think it was as surprised as my geese.
I
> let them out for the first time on Tuesday, and they wound up sliding
their
> fat behinds down the pasture! Once they got to the grassy part, it was
OK.
> >>
>
> Robyn, The geese are to funny, you gave me a laugh. We were supposed to
> get 8 inches of snow, they were wrong again. We got a little ice and about
2
> inches of snow. Ember likes to go out and spin around on the ice, and I
mean
> on purpose. She goes out and leaves her back legs in one spot and spins
> around it is too funny. I wish I had a video camera. She loves to run in
> circles anyway but this is a new twist. I am beginning to think we are
never
> going to get that snow here, it is avoiding the Ohio Valley. I bet Zoe was
> surprised when she slipped, my Kim would have said you better not have
seen
> that! Or I meant to do that. I bet Zoe will be less than pleased if she
finds
> out that you broadcast her slip on the internet.LOL!
>
> Debbie and the Pyr gang
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 10:52:38 EST
> From: Kiradaw@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [PyrNet-L] Pyrs and the Latest Ice
>
> In a message dated 1/30/00 9:07:39 AM Eastern Standard Time,
clhenke@juno.com
> writes:
>
> << They went dashing out so fast, and we are yelling
> " slow down, watch the ice on the steps ". >>
> Cindy, I think these words are being shouted at pyr's all over this
half
> of the U.S. right now. I have found my self, yelling this on several
> occasions. They just ignore me like what does she know? We are the ones
that
> came from the Pyrenean Mountains, she's just Scot Irish. Yeah, they
probably
> don't even get weather like this.LOL 7 slip sliding Pyrs later I just
smile
> and say oh well their having fun, and then say a prayer please don't let
them
> get hurt.
>
> Debbie and the Pyr gang
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 12:49:34 -0500
> From: srwhitney@earthlink.net
> Subject: [PyrNet-L] Anais shedding
>
> I have been combing and brushing Anais quite a bit this week because I
> gave her a bath on Friday and took her to the Canine Learning Experience
> on Saturday (which was a lot of fun and I finally got to meet Clondike
> who is just beautiful!!!)
>
> A few days before he bath I had noticed that an awful lot of hair was
> coming out on her upper back legs (thighs?). Today I am back to combing
> and am noticing the same thing. I am combing out handfuls of hair from
> a very small area. It's scary and her coat looks thin in spots. She
> will be a year old next wednesday. This can't be normal can it? The
> temperature has been in the 20's and below for weeks here in NJ. I have
> never seen a Pyr blow their coat and know that this often happens at
> around this age for the first time, but the hair is coming out only on
> her upper legs and she shouldn't be shedding in this weather, should
> she? She was spayed on December 2, in case that is significant. Could
> something be really wrong? I am afraid to keep combing!!!
>
> Help!!!
>
> Stephanie & Anais
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 14:13:08 EST
> From: D3melza@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [PyrNet-L] Anais shedding
>
> Stephanie-
> I wouldn't be too worried about this, it is normal. I work in a
grooming
> shop and I have noticed a lot of dogs blowing their coats in the past few
> weeks. It may be due to a little warmer weather here, or in Anais' case,
she
> is a puppy and that is common. Also, when my Pyr's blow their coats, it
often
> happens in sections. The upper rear leg is a big area and I can brush and
> brush there for days and it still keeps coming. After awhile, they start
> blowing in other places too, like around the neck. Don't be concerned.
Pyr's
> have even more hair than you thought they did when they are blowing coat!
If
> this keeps up and she starts to get bald spots, I would have a vet look at
> her. Otherwise, just keep brushing and try not to irritate her skin by
doing
> so. Good luck!
>
> -Emily Hainsworth (with sleepy Belle and Zuni..."is it morning already?")
> Castle Rock, CO
> D3melza@aol.com
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 13:27:17 -0600
> From: dneal@scan.missouri.org
> Subject: Re: [PyrNet-L] Anais shedding
>
> Just keep combing. After surgery that would be normal.
> Dolores
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Stephanie W <srwhitney@earthlink.net>
> To: Great Pyrenees Discussion List <PYR-L@APPLE.EASE.LSOFT.COM>;
> <pyrnet-l@pyrnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2000 11:49 AM
> Subject: [PyrNet-L] Anais shedding
>
>
> > I have been combing and brushing Anais quite a bit this week because I
> > gave her a bath on Friday and took her to the Canine Learning Experience
> > on Saturday (which was a lot of fun and I finally got to meet Clondike
> > who is just beautiful!!!)
> >
> > A few days before he bath I had noticed that an awful lot of hair was
> > coming out on her upper back legs (thighs?). Today I am back to combing
> > and am noticing the same thing. I am combing out handfuls of hair from
> > a very small area. It's scary and her coat looks thin in spots. She
> > will be a year old next wednesday. This can't be normal can it? The
> > temperature has been in the 20's and below for weeks here in NJ. I have
> > never seen a Pyr blow their coat and know that this often happens at
> > around this age for the first time, but the hair is coming out only on
> > her upper legs and she shouldn't be shedding in this weather, should
> > she? She was spayed on December 2, in case that is significant. Could
> > something be really wrong? I am afraid to keep combing!!!
> >
> > Help!!!
> >
> > Stephanie & Anais
> >
> >
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> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 13:37:52 -0600
> From: clhenke@juno.com
> Subject: Re: [PyrNet-L] Anais shedding
>
> Stephanie, don't fret, you'll be brushing for awhile. If the bath you
> gave her was warm it will help blow the coat even more. Mine all shed
> heavily from the upper leg ( thigh ) area, and keep at it much longer
> than the rest of the body. Just when you think you have it all it keeps
> coming. You can imagine me with four last year blowing that first puppy
> coat, I didn't think it was ever going to end. Neither did my poor
> vacuum! I started late this year ( I was surprised by the early shed out
> ) But I am saving mine to send out to be spun for making things. Next
> one I will be ready for! You don't think there is that much hair because
> it always seems more manageable than a lot of other long haired breeds,
> when it happens though it is overwhelming! Good luck, have fun, and keep
> that brush and comb handy! :-) Cindy.
>
> Cindy Henke
> clhenke@juno.com
> Ennis, Texas
>
> "All knowledge, the totality of all questions and answers, is contained
> in the dog." ~ Franz Kafka
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 15:10:49 -0500
> From: bamb@monmouth.com
> Subject: Re: [PyrNet-L] Anais shedding
>
> Stephanie. It has been my experience that most dogs shed out
> around their birthdays. Each year. Anesthesia has the added bonus
> of causing the coat to "blow". Or perhaps it is the stress of the
> surgery and being in the hospital overnight. Chel was spayed just
> recently. She was just about naked for the last 2 months. Her
> coat is finally starting to come back in. Worst coat blow I've
> ever seen with her. Probably a combo of coming out of season, her
> birthday and the spay.
>
> Barb Bowes
> Bo, Molly, Chelsea (Pyrs) & Flopsy (Pyr Shep)
> The more people I meet, the more I like my dog!
> bamb@monmouth.com
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 15:21:29 EST
> From: Dancingpyr@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [PyrNet-L] Pyrs and the Latest Ice - Update
>
> In a message dated 1/30/2000 9:07:39 AM EST, clhenke@juno.com writes:
>
> << They went dashing out so fast, and we are yelling
> " slow down, watch the ice on the steps ". I tend to open the door and
> let them feed out one at a time, hubby throws the door open. >>
>
> We do the same thing -- tell them to be careful, take it easy, it's icy --
> like they really understand what we're talking about, and moreover, that
they
> really care! It was amazing how well they got around on the ice.
>
> This morning, David and I volunteered again to take care of the co-op
horses
> at the stables where we have our guy. Actually it wasn't bad going --
even
> went to Waffle House for breakfast. By the time we got home, however, it
was
> getting worse. The trees became completely covered in ice by noon. We
had
> more rain, but by 2:30 the rain had stopped and the sound of dripping was
> from the ice melting! Haven't had any sun, but the temps are now in the
> mid-30's, so some of it will come off the trees and power lines before the
> temps drop again tonight.
>
> As for the horses, they're in their stalls. Yesterday I went out around
> lunch, and turned Castillan, our gelding, out in the indoor arena. I
didn't
> have my saddle, but I did have my helmet and his bridle, so I climbed on
him
> bareback and walked him around for 15 - 20 minutes. Hopefully by
tomorrow,
> the ice will start to go, and we'll be able to turn them out again.
>
> We haven't had it nearly as bad as the folks in North Carolina! Some
places,
> like around Raleigh, had 18" of snow last weekend, and they haven't dug
out
> from that mess. So far our power has stayed on, so "life is good". As
for
> the Pyrs, well, Babe and Tanuki are in stalls of our barn keeping dry and
> warm. Baron, Kes, and Zoe are in the house with us. Just had all three
on
> the sofa -- talk about crowded -- too bad they moved before I could get a
> photo.
>
> Bye for now, Robyn
> dancingpyr@aol.com
> Taylors, SC
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 15:59:59 -0500
> From: srwhitney@earthlink.net
> Subject: Re: [PyrNet-L] Anais shedding
>
> Thank you for the reassurance! I'd read the descriptions but was realty
> starting to panic.
>
> Stephanie & Anais (I could have told you I was fine, Mom!)
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 18:32:07 EST
> From: Tfrench11@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [PyrNet-L] Anais shedding
>
> Stephanie,
> I once owned Chow that blew her coat after having been spayed. The vet
said
> it was one of the side effects of anethesia. It will end soon.
> Teresa and Jasmine
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 22:52:55 -0500
> From: avignon@bond.net
> Subject: RE: [PyrNet-L] Anais shedding
>
> Last summer about 8 weeks after having been in season, we had Blossom
> then 4, spayed. Between the combination of post heat blow and the
> anesthetic, she blew so much coat she looked like a "white" lab. She
> even lost hair on her tail.
>
> Even knowing how much hair they can lose while blowing and then the
> added effects of the anesthetic, I was often "shocked" by her
> appearance. I'm sure had she been my first Pyr I would have been
> panicing and rushing her off to the vet.
>
> Being a spinner I no longer look at the seasonal "blows" in a sad or
> negative way. It has simply become "harvest time"...... more hair to
> spin. <g>
>
> Colette
>
> Colette Wilson
> Kitchener ON Canada
> mailto:avignon@bond.net
> http://www.bond.net/~warrickw/avignon/avignon.html
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 17:42:52 +1300
> From: ARIEGE@xtra.co.nz
> Subject: [PyrNet-L] Anais shedding
>
> Imagine the bitch after a litter Stephanie when the coat "drops" out!!
Bald
> as a coot but a few months later there is a lovely new coat. Out with the
> old, in with the new.
> Jan
> Jan Chaplin Ariege-Roussillon Pyreneans. Visit my sites at
> http://www.geocities.com/janellachaplin/ and
> http://msnhomepages.talkcity.com/PetsPl/pyreneanmountaindog/ and my latest
> Site http://msnhomepages.talkcity.com/HobbyCt/postcardcollections/
> the site of PMDC http://www.geocities.com/pyreneans
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
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