Sariena, Pyrs, Maremma's, Kuvasz, Akbash, etc. are "probably" all related to each other. But thousands of years ago, they each went to their different regions and started becoming their own breeds. Joe is a lot more knowledgeable than I am on such things. Joe? Barb Bowes Bo & Chelsea (Pyrs), Flopsy (Pyr Shep) & Machin (Doxie) The more people I meet, the more I like my dog! bamb@monmouth.com