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RE: [WW] Atrocities other than German
Geez, get touchy about it. Just thought it was interesting and wanted to
share.
And this is about HORROR in the World Wars also, and that is not horrific,
what is?
Whether it is real or not, propaganda or not, it is HORROR.
I did not mean to post something neo-fascist on the list, nor did I. I don't
really care what the person who posted it beleives in. I posted an account
of something that happened during the war that could be used to describe
some horrable things that happened by someone OTHER THAN THE NAZIS.
And being as I did not post a link to the propaganda page that you pasted
in, who just posted propaganda on the list? You did.
Jimmy the Barrel
>
>Lets keep neo-fascist propaganda off this list! The list is about Weird
>Wars, not opposing views of what happened in WWII.
>
>For those of you who do not understand why I am a little upset by this crap
>appearing here, lets look at what the group this posted this drivel on the
>Internet believes! Read carefully between the lines here, seems very
>familiar in a WWII historical sense. Funny that this group is telling you
>about the evils of the allies on one page of their site and how the allies
>practiced genocide too, and then on the next basically talks about how to
>use genetic engineering to produce a covert genocide. Bash the enemy and
>then explain how you want to breed the perfect race again?
>
>Is their a moderator in the house, if so are their rules about this sort of
>thing! Lets get back on topic.
>
>http://home.att.net/~genophilia/mw1.htm
>http://home.att.net/~genophilia/
>
>Church of Prometheus
>Nietzsche is our patron saint; Neo-Darwinism is our means; Nationalism is
>our method; A new human species is our goal. Our God lies in the future,
>awaiting creation.
>
>Principles and Goals:
>
>I. We are both a nation and a religion. Whether we will be a diasporic
>nation, a nation with boundaries, or both, will depend on circumstances
>currently beyond our control. But in the future, a homeland must be sought
>for by any means available.
>
>II. Our aim is to create a genetically enhanced race that will
>eventually
>become a new, superior species. In the short-term, this will be achieved
>via
>eugenics and genetic engineering.
>
>III. There are many reasons why we want to achieve this:
>
>a.) Technology has outpaced the human brain in modernization -- we must now
>play catchup using eugenics and do it alone if necessary.
>b.) The world is caught in a dysgenic trend from which we want to be freed.
>c.) This is a way of maximizing our viability -- the survival and
>probability of survival of our genes. A more intelligent species will be
>more fit to adapt to new environments and to face new threats and
>obstacles.
>d.) We see this as the noble thing to do, the idealization of humanity and
>beyond-humanity. We seek to bring ourselves closer to Godhood. Through
>eugenics and other forms of improvement, we will bring higher civilization,
>higher creativity, higher consciousness to the Universe. What Nature used
>to
>do via natural selection, we will now take into our own hands with directed
>and deliberate evolution.
>
>IV. We must not concern ourselves with others that are caught in the
>dysgenic cycle. We must only be concerned with the success of other
>competing eugenics' programs that will pose a threat to our own new
>species,
>for speciation will not travel along a single vector when humans compete
>using the new technologies.
>
>V. Any eugenics' program has equal validity to use the state's coercive
>power to improve human genetic capital. Genetic capital is now more
>valuable
>than land and/or territory aside from some scarce resources. DNA or genetic
>capital is the most valuable commodity in the universe.
>
>VI. Behavioral tolerance should flow naturally out of a highly
>intelligent, eugenic society that is ethically cohesive. But is must be
>accepting of many different preferences or freedoms of personal conduct
>that
>might offend, but does no harm to the group. That is, elimination of
>consensual crimes is a given in a society that through intelligence and
>understanding of human behavior in others can tolerate deviants who do no
>harm.
>
>VII. We are not a cult or sect. Our principles are firmly grounded in
>empiricism and neo-Darwinism. Our purpose is merely to do what we believe
>is
>noble, using science to create a new human species because that is what we
>want to do. No irrational dogma is required or desired. The eugenic state
>is
>a sovereign state, with or without borders.
>
>VIII. As creators we do not submit to dogma or blind faith, but only to
>empirical knowledge. Likewise, we have no need of holy men, only wise men.
>As individuals, we only submit to the goals of the project, and to nothing
>else. And in allowing us to be part of the creation, the group gives back
>to
>the individual a sense of purpose and fulfillment. Eugenic is that which
>makes us come closer to our image of god in a technological and ever
>expanding universe. No limits, and no regrets.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jimmy Craig [mailto:jimmythebarrel@hotmail.com]
>Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 9:43 AM
>To: weirdwars@gamerz.net
>Subject: [WW] Atrocities other than German
>
>
>http://home.att.net/~genophilia/mw1.htm
>
>
>Give a look at this site, its tells of, basiclly, a Russian genocide
>program
>
>initiated in the last 2 years of WW2.
>
>It goes to show that the Nazi's were not the only ones to commit atrocities
>during the war. Russia even killed allies in German prison camps on their
>sweep to clean Germans from their territories.
>
>Jimmy the Barrel
>
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