Re: [BNW] Goliath vs. Speedster, hope for the speedster?

[Spacedog <spacedog2@xoommail.com>]

"Steve Crow" wrote:
 > > >Sounds good to me. I agree that (barring good rolls) the Goliath should 
 > >not
 > > >be able to tag a dodging speedster on the average. Also, the Speedster
 > > >should stay out of the reach of the Goliath, but that's tactics. Breaking
 > > >down to just hard numbers, I think you found the fix.
 > >
 > >
 > >Actually, AFAIK, Dodge only applies to rolls to avoid bullets. You use
 > >fighting skill to avoid hand to hand, and the way it works is something
 > >like this:
 > >
 > 
 > Actually, this is not correct.  Assuming that the rules are correct, Page 
 > 154 is _very - specific on this.  The first sentence states, "Your hero 
 > doesn't have to just stand there and take it when someone's shooting at him 
 > OR TRYING TO PUNCH HIM OUT." (my emphasis)
 > 
 > Granted, as others have noted, it's not very cost-effective to use Dodging 
 > rather than relying on your HTH skill _if_ you're a decent HTH fighter. 
 > However, the rules do permit you to dodge HTH attacks.  You probably 
 > shouldn't...but at least it is permited by the printed rules.
 > 
 > As I've noted, this was not the case for Deadlands or Hell on Earth.

If I read this correctly you are incorrect. In Deadlands and HOE you do take you 
opponents fightin' skill into account
From page 127 of the revised player's guide:
The Target number of the attack is faid plus the opponents fightin' aptitude for 
whatever weapon in his hand. A cowboy gets his fightin' brawlin' skill if he is 
empty handed or using some sort of improvised club- like a bottle or pistol butt.

Now if you meant that you can't dodge a fightin' roll that is correct. You do 
get to make a fighti' roll to essential parry the attack if they are using 
fightin' . That is a on page 129 under vamossin'
 
Now I will add my imput on the BNW part. From what I have seen speedsters tend 
to work best as hit and run.  Using first move they  run in. Attack a couple 
times and run out. If they stay in close you always should try to dodge the 
goliath. I don't care if you have hand to hand 5 it will hit the speedster. The 
speedster will have more actions most likely so they afford to blow a few to 
dodge the goliath. remebr the goliaths are slow so they may only get two 
actions.  A speedster should get on average 3.
 

Spacedog

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