Re: [HoE] Book of Revelation (very long & very biblical)

[bshurd@juno.com]

On Thu, 7 Jan 1999 13:41:45 -0800 "Fuzyn9feet" <Fuzyn9feet@email.msn.com>
writes:
>    I decided to use the Book of Revelation to put some scare and hope 
>in my
>player in my game.

Great Idea. Now I've gotta dig out my Bible....
(rummages arround gaming shelf... here's one...)
>
>1) Revelations 6:8-"They were given power over a fourth of the earth 
>to kill
>by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth." If 
>the
>Reconers are the Four Horsemen then North America is the domain they 
>must
>have power over, sense they manifested here. This means one or four 
>things.
>One the rest of the world is safe from the Horsemen rampage. Two, the 
>rest
>of the world may get a visit from the Horsemen but not their minions. 
>Three,
>the writer of the Book of Revelations was mistaken. Four, the Reconers 
>are
>just using the idea of the Horsemen and can't really read very well.


Or Each of them may raise a single army, and spread with thier army of
minions into one of four directions so that each of them holds a fourth
of the Earth.

Biblical (esp profectic) translations tend to loose tense, ownership, and
other small details that make worlds of diffrence. Hell, look at modern
movie translations, the diffrences between most dubbed and subtitled
movies are astounding, thus it is easily argued that translations over
time could slowly (or not so slowly, ie King James) change the very
ideals of the bible. (Like changing the sex of any public offical, or
person of power to male, unless they were wicked, setting an entire
mindset against women cir 1200's.)

>
>
>2) Revelations 2&3-Talks of seven churches. The description of each of 
>the
>churches that will help humanity could be the humans granted powers. I 
>will
>list the churches and some of the parts that led me to these 
>thoughts;

great concept, but I dissagree on some conclusions.

(snip to dissagreement)-

>2:18 to 29- The church of Thytira- this one I not sure on yet. Ether 
>Joan or

Joan easily...
Refrence Rev 2 :19
"I Know thy works, and chairity, and service, and faith, and thy
patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first."

charity work done for mutant before the split, and for both mutant and
norm after the split?


>
>3:1 to 6- The church of Sardis- they "have a reputation of being 
>alive, but
>are dead" and some "have not soiled their close." This passage sounds 
>to me
>like the Sykers. It talks about their deeds not being in the site of 
>God and
>that something them dies, lie what happens to a man sent to do another 
>man
>dirty work.


Disagreement, The Harrowed, as a whole.
(Ref Rev 3:2)
	"Be watchful, and strenghten the things which remain, that are ready to
die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God."

-- duh, ya got a demon half-guiding your life, you won't be perfect...
but you can be used to further the resolve of those who could be...--

Further in verse three "...If thou shalt not watch, I will come as a
thief, and thou will not know what hour I shall come upon you."

-- Sounds like a fight for dominion, final dominion.--

>
>3:7 to 13- The church of Philadelphia- I can't point to anything but 
>my
>feelings are this is the Blessed, and more to the point Old Prosperi.
>


come on, with as may refrences to "no man is able" how bout the
witches....
especialy when the whole passage refers to using love and gentle guidence
rather than force?

>3:14 to 22- The church of Laodicea- Again I can't point to any one 
>thing but
>it feels like Muties to me.

again I disagree.
"Tale tellers"
(Rev 3: 16-17)
	" So being lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spur thee from my
mouth:
	Because thou sayest 'I am rich, and increased with wealth, needest
nothing; and knowest not that thou are wretched, and miseable, and poor,
and blind, and naked."

-- or rather refuse to see it because of the hope against the horrors of
reality, and 'spurned from the mouth' how bout the power of words,
legends and their effect against the reckoners? ( I know, it changes the
traditional meaning compleatly, but it fits the HOE setting well.)   

>
>Sorry it so long but I couldn't avoid it. I dout I have to ask what 
>you guys
>think.
>Christopher Merrill

no problem,
hope my response was worth thinking about...
Shane- 
(not him)


                                 "Reality is for those who can't roll
dice."

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