Re: [HoE] Re: Templars and Anti-Templars

[Coucouvinis <deimos@tig.com.au>]

Steve Crow wrote:

> The issue (stil unanswered since I reraised the point yesterday, but which
> you touch on), is what happens if the Templar PC disregards the Templar
> guidelines?
>

It depends on what how badly he broke them - the guidelines are just that,
guidelines. They're not rules carved in stone. There is no one way to judge a
person or groups of people. Simon's way is not the way of many of the Templars -
even the narrator (whose name escapes me) thinks he's too rough on some people
(I believe she thinks that making people go through the Boise ghost storm is
harsh).

Many of the Martyrs encourage giving more leeway in judging people, especially
certain ones (coughcoughJenny Hisecoughcough). It says in LC that Simon prefers
that Templars who have received the blessing of St. Hise tell him rather than
not - they're certainly not blackballed.

My impression from LC was that Templars are rarely blackballed for being too
lenient - blackballing is more for Templars who are misusing their powers - for
personal gain, doing evil things, because Templars never lose their powers
(their blessings, yes, but not the Saint powers) - that's what balckballing and
the Oath of Blood is for.

> His Templar brethren, as represented in the source material by folks like
> Simon and Joan in the upper hierarchy, don't appear to be the types who give
> their members the benefit of the doubt.
>

As I said previously, I don't know about this - my impression from both the main
rulebook and LC is that Templars are rarely blackballed for helping a settlement
that was judged by another Templar to be unworthy - it's too subjective.
Blackballing is more for when a Templar "goes bad" - ie kills a settlement or
some such thing.

> So far, there's been no easy answer without compromising the source
> material.  If you want to make Simon and Joan more easy-going types who just
> shrug their shoulders and say, "Oh, you screwed up, no problem - do better
> next time" (and you and they'll probably have to do it ad infinitum), then
> you're okay.
>

Not so much that, but I think they'd be less likely to start out by saying "You
screwed up." Templars are given a fair amount of leeway to make their decisions.
Again, I suggest looking at the descriptions of the Saints - many of them don't
like Templars who act like, say, Simon, but Simon doesn't blackball Templars who
receive the blessing of St. Hise or some of the others.

As usual, this is all IIRC and IMHO.

Nick