Re: [HoE] [HOPLER] AP ?

["Steve Crow" <crow_steve@hotmail.com>]

>I have a quick explanation for the AP Grenade question that comes in a
>simple 1 hit Q&A:
>
>1) Which kind of AP were these designed for?
>
>If it's a "grenade" that's SERIOUS AP, then it's a HEAT round, "High
>Explosive Anti-Tank," which means that it penetrates the armor first, then
>blows a shaped charge INTO the hole, creating a super-heated jet of flame
>into the tank.  Man does THAT suck for the crew compartment. These babies
>can kill just about ANY modern tank on the battlefield.  I have a friend
>who's a tanker at a Texas Army base, and the horror stories he's heard 
>about
>these tank-killers rounds are truly disgusting.
>

Hmmm.  That's my main issue of confusion on this thread.  AP Grenades are AP 
whether you launch them or throw them.  Again, my knowledge of munitions & 
physics is somewhat limited.  However...wouldn't the method of delivery make 
a difference?  A shaped charge isn't going to do you much good if you throw 
it, will it?

On the other hand, I don't really want to get into these kinds of nit-picky 
distinctions.  Particularly since the HoE rules don't - they simply say it's 
AP or it isn't.

>If it detonates, either in the air or on impact, into thousands of tiny
>fragments and shrapnel, then it's not technically an AP weapon, AP as armor
>piercing.  It's AP as in Anti-Personel, or "Beehive" grenades.  The 
>military
>hasn't designed a grenade that spits out AP shrapnel, shrapnel does it's
>dirty work by being EVERYWHERE in the blast radius, traveling at
>ridiculously high speeds, usually too fast to actually penetrate anything
>serious as it can't maintain it's integrity, it just flattens.
>
>And if it just explodes on contact, then its a HEAP grenade, High Explosive
>Anti-Personel.  Just a big ol' *BANG!* when it hits something solid and 
>LOTS
>of concussion damage, which should ignore armor altogether, as it is
>entirely a shock-wave kind of damage.  The actual battle reports note the
>effect as leaving the body intact, but almost liquifying everything on the
>inside; bones, organs, you name it.
>
>How they got it is irrelevant.  They exist now, they'll exist in the
>theoretical 2096, and they'll be FAR less protected than they are
>now.....ie: No military, no MP's, free grenades if you can find 'em.  Once
>they're found, they'll be hoarded like cans of Spam and MRE's, but that's a
>different issue.
>
>At least, that's what I think, I could be wrong.....
>
>Nah.
>
>Paul "Whup-ass can opener" Zichichi


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