Re: [HOE] Re: Urban Renewal cover

[The Baron Samedi <baron11@netmcr.com>]

At 03:06 AM 9/3/00, you wrote:
>----- Original Message ----- >
> > Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 09:41:57 +1000
> > From: poetic@iprimus.com.au
> > Subject: Re: [HOE] Urban Renewal cover [Shane, Hopler, et al]
> >
>Would Cole
> > Ballad be anywhere near as cool if they had depicted him looking like an
> > accountant with shirt always on? the exposure of flesh adds to the
>graphics.
> > In the case of the UR cover the woman is depicted in such a way to add
> > impact to the situation...and lets not forget this is an adult themed
>world.
>
>1 - You're operating off the assumption we think Cole looks cool to begin
>with. As much as I like HoE, Pinnacle and Parente, I much prefer to use my
>leatherette copy of HoE with the radiation symbol on it rather than look at
>his goofy physique.
><But that's not the issue at hand>

heh

>2 - In the case of the UR cover - how does it add impact to the situation? I
>saw the cover and said "What the hell?" and my co-worker replied "Looks like
>they're marketing to the lowest common denominator now." This isn't the
>image I'd want for HoE. Sure, it's an adult-themed world, but there comes a
>point when one should go, "Ya know. This cover shows a naked chick holding
>onto a big burly guy who appears to be rescuing her because she forgot her
>clothes and equipment. WTF? Why?"
>
> > look at the dallas theater for example...sex is very much a part of the
>way
> > of the wasted west. People are trying to survive and to do that people
>rely
> > on the more animal instincts.
>
>Like getting naked during investigations in haunted houses? How exactly does
>that help *any* "ghost hunt"?

Agreed...see my point below...

>The Theatre is one of those things that you can let people get into or not.
>Throwing sex on the cover is just gratuitous. Believe it or not, there are
>women who roleplay, and as cool as that is, not all of them would be
>thrilled with the idea of some guy rescuing a nude damsel in distress. I
>find this *particularly* odd in the harsh "adult-themed" world of HoE, where
>a woman who couldn't even clothe herself, let alone kick ass and take names,
>would have likely been weeded out by now (13 years after the bomb).

Agreed.  I might have expected more if we had a Sourcebook about Near 
Dallas and Kane's Theater, or something similar.

However, getting nekkid has NOTHING to do with the plot, theme, or mood of 
Urban Renewal.


> > anyway sorry to rant but i just cant believe people find her position so
> > offensive,
>
>I don't find it offensive. This isn't the back cover of the Tzimisce book
>here (which doesn't offend me either). I simply find it odd, out of place,
>and inappropriate.
>
>Sinister Dexter
>sinisterdexter@mindspring.com
>

Agreed.

TBS
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