Re: [HOE] Urban Renewal cover [Shane, Hopler, et al]

["Ashley Smith" <ratqueen13@hotmail.com>]

>"Russ Ruffino" <mobstyle@ucla.edu> wrote:
>Any girl
>that I know cool and laid back enough to play Deadlands with a bunch of 
>guys
>(and we have a few in our posse) wouldn't mind this cover, because it
>enhances the fantasy of the role you're playing.

Okay, I'm a woman, and I mind this cover.  Not a lot, not enough to boycott 
the book, but I do have an opinion.  See earlier post for said opinion.  
Maybe it enhances your fanatasy, but the role the woman on the cover is 
playing is not one I really care to share.  For starters, my character would 
be cold and self-conscious.  Not to mention feeling pretty stupid at not 
being able to contribute anything to the adventure on account of forgetting 
or losing my equipment.


>And yes, it's just as much fun for female role-players to say, "Yeah, >I'm 
>the hot female Templar" as it
>is for guys to say, "I'm the handsome, stud Templar with all the chicks."

No arguments here.  I've played a hot chick before.  I've also played a 
13-year old girl and an ugly wilderness scout with no social skills.  All 
three were just as fun.


>If you can't take the heat, stay the Hell out of the kitchen.

This is where you lose me.  The way I read this (please correct my if I've 
made a mistake) is that you think that if I can't handle seeing naked women 
in my hobby then I should take up knitting or raising kittens and leave the 
boys alone.  This "boys will be boys, so girls should just shut up and deal 
with it" argument is really disgusting.  I've heard this used to justify a 
whole range of behaviors from avoiding housework to gang rape.  My 
ex-boyfriend used this on me when I told him that I would call the police if 
he hit me again.

No, I will not shut up and deal with it.  If someone's behavior p*sses me 
off, I will call them on it and tell them exactly what makes me angry.  They 
can either apologize and never do it again, give me an explanation that I 
may or may not accept, or just avoid me from now on.  But I will not let 
them get away with acting like an a**hole just because "that's the way guys 
are."  Bullsh*t.  I am a human being just like you.  I expect you to act 
like one.  This is my kitchen, too.

>You can call me a chauvanist...

Thank you.  Consider it said.

>...but I think most of the guys who roleplay are all
>thinking the same thing here.


From the content of these posts, not really.

Ashley


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