In a message dated 98-03-23 18:28:51 EST, you write: << very difficult for a breeder to have all testing, vet care and necessary expenses performed and sell the pups for $200 a piece and make a profit. >> How about $2000.00 and make a profit. If any of you think anyone who breeds dogs outside the puppy mill business makes a profit you are operating under some very poor information. Joe