Don't want to sound tacky here but can you give me a definition of what you call a BYB? Beverly Coate C&C Farms Stigler Oklahoma USA Visit our website at http://www.cwis.net/~bcoate bcoate@cwis.net ICQ #20747702 <Marcie said: -I was just trying to steer him towards networking with the > responsible owners rather than hearing a song and dance from some backyard > breeder.