In a message dated 1/24/99 8:47:26 PM, you wrote: <<a bitch about 25-26" tall and weighs 87 lbs. and she is now 9 years old and about the same height as our Lab>> Agreed; our Katrina wasn't much bigger than our Lab/Shep, and only weighed 84 or 85 pounds. My Panda, only family Pyr right now, tops out at about 90 pounds, max. She'll be four next week. Kathy kghubgas@aol.com