In a message dated 5/27/99 8:41:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time, joan@ziehl.com writes: << Gardayan, I really didn't think that he was that tall when I saw him in April. He seemed to me to be smaller than some of the other males we saw. >> If it was Gardayan, you are absolutely right. Gardayan would be about 28 or 29 inches at withers. Joe