----- Original Message ----- From: <JGentzel@aol.com> I tnink the person that told me knew very well.>> I really don't want to get into a fight here, but obviously the person who told you that Carolyn had sperm banked Ubu (which was what we were discussing) for the purpose of DNA testing did *not* know "very well" since that is simply not the case, as Barb has also said. Linda