Re: [pyrnet] Articles on dwarfism--Sande and Bingel

["Linda Weisser" <lmweisser@olywa.net>]

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From: <JGentzel@aol.com>

Yes, Ronald D. Sande, School of Medicine, University of Washington, >>

Let's be clear just for accuracy's sake.  Dr. Sande is at the School of
*Veterinary* Medicine at Washington *State* University.  The human medical
school is indeed at U of Wa. which is in Seattle, completely across the
state from WSU.

<<he was
one of the examiners/ co-authors  in the article in the Vet journal that
detailed all the problems. >>

From JAVMA Sept 15, 1994.  Co-authored with Dr. Sarah (Sally) Bingel  who
was at that time at the College of Comparative Medicine, School of
Medicine, University of Washington.  Which may be the confusion about who
is where.

Sally Bingel is also listed as co-author with Dr. Sande of Animal Models of
Dwarfism which was published in the Symposium on Orthopedic Diseases,
Veterinary Clinics of North America: Small Animal Practice, Feb 1982. At
that time Dr Bingel was listed as being a Senior Fellow. Department of
Pathology.  UW School of Medicine.  She has also worked with Dr Sande on
Mal projects.

<< This article "Chrondrodysplasia in Five great
Pyrenees" was very objective and fact reporting and did not off any
analysis.
 The pathology reported was multiple and involved the spine (among many
others), especially the cervical region and rib attachements.  >>

I just reread this.  What I find are a lot of nearly incomprehensible words
(especially for the lay person) and a lot of very scientific references,
but nowhere in all of this do I find any suggestion of "crippling" etc.
Yes, the word "deformity" is used but that simply means a deviation from
normal.  Indeed the one reference I could find to any kind of skeletal
condition was the statement that postmortem examination was perfomed on two
dogs (one at 16 mos, one at 7 years) and "Neither dog had evidence of
degenerative joint disease."  I find this particularly striking in the 7
year old as we could probably all identify a large number of normal Pyrs
who have DJD by 7 years.

<<Did he ever publish this cute opinion?  Where could we follow this
opinion? >>

Are you kidding?? !!  Hardly the stuff of "scientific" papers.  This was
said in a personal conversation.  Hearsay, I admit but in one case it was
said to a friend of mine (whose veracity I never question) and she was so
horrified that she called me nearly as soon as she had hung up from talking
to Dr Sande.  If you wish to confirm this private conversation I would be
glad to give you the name of my friend privately.

Linda