Darrell, you can join the ShowPyrs list on Yahoo! and have a look at at the National Folder in the files section. Most were emailed to me by Mike Jourdan, but some of the ones in there are from others. Barb Bowes Bo & Chelsea (Pyrs), Flopsy (Pyr Shep) & Machin (Doxie) The more people I meet, the more I like my dog! bamb@monmouth.com