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Good morning Joe: Thank you for your reply, and opinion, I won't be discounting any of it. You may be right, of course I hope your not. I'd like to make some comments though, if I may? You wrote; Pathologically Zeus was not able to help himself. This can grow into a sort of rage reaction and I am not sure it is not a form of rage. If you talking about rage as in"Springer rage " I would have to disagree, slightly. I went through "rage syndrome" with a dear friend of mine and her Springer. When this dog had an "episode" there were no signs of life in her eyes, she was almost in a trance like state. When she grabbed on to my friends arm, there was no letting go, no matter what we did to stop her. When she finally came out of it you could see that she litterly had no idea of what had just transpired. So if this is the sort of rage you are talking about, and Zeus had it, I would be mourning my daughter's death and not be on the computer, finding help for my dog, he'd be gone, and probably so would she. he was saying, "back off sister that hurts!">> I know that is what you want, but it is not what happened. Not with a Pyr. A Pyr would have just moved away from the Child and never laid his teeth on a three year old. How bad could she have been hurting him anyway? Again I hope your wrong. You mentioned earlier that a Pyr would not hurt something weaker or smaller than them. But does not an older, larger dog, put a smaller pup in its place(with it's teeth) when its jumping on them and biting them? There intent is not to hurt, but to stop them. Is it so far out there to believe that Zeus was doing the same thing? If had been another pup, he would not have broken the skin. How would he know that human skin is not as strong? When he goes after my other dog for being near his food, he has never broken her skin. Puppy's bite people all the time in play, they have to be taught that this is not acceptable, and that it hurts our skin. I, through behaviour modification training, am trying to teach Zeus that correcting a human is also not acceptable. At the trainers, he is already eating and drinking with several dogs by his side. They have weekly workshops, in which there are upwards of 100 people and their dogs( all strangers), Zeus run's among them all(with supervision of course) This was unheard of in the beginning. His trainer is one of Canada's leading authorities on Aggressive dogs, its all he deals with. People from all over North America send their dogs to him. Sometimes even from different parts of the world. He doesn't think that Zeus's problem was hereditary, but a classic case of trauma induced fear. I didn't mention a few strange things about the breeder that I noticed, sorry, this had been a long hard road, and its hard to think of everything at one time. I still think that they seemed to care where the puppies went, but a few things did happen while I was there that seemed odd. Let me know what you think. First, was that when the breeder went into the pen he immediately started growling and snarling at the pups, grabbing them by the scruff of the neck(while still on the ground). Noticing my confusion, he explained that he was showing him that "he's Alpha"....OK....to 6 week old puppies? Another was that he picked Zeus up by the scruff of the neck, a practice that has always gives me the shivers, but especially with a 20lb. puppy!!!! When I returned at 8 weeks, he was trimming their nails, he was so ruff that each pup I seen him do, were yelping. I've never had a dog yelp, when I do it. He was using side cutters. And when Zeus's father was getting in the way of this(seemingly concerned for the pup's) he was given a smack on the nose, followed by a yell, "Get the hell out of here!" You see the trainer has all this info. and more, to go by. I know that its hard for someone to see the whole picture without the whole story. I know I am not making you very happy. I could lie to you about what I think, but that might not help you, the dog, and certainly the children. No, I appreciate your honesty, and am not going to discount any of it, altough I may not as of yet agree with all of what you are saying. It has certainly made me more aware, and I'm storing it all in my brain(as well as my computer) to be conscious of it, for future reference. I must say that it is much nicer having a "discussion" with you, rather than having each other's feather's ruffled. I feel that I can listen and learn more, ( I do feel that I can learn from you) rather than just hit the delete key everytime your name pops up. Thank you, Respectfully, Sariena |