Re: [pyrnet] Hi protein

["Chrissy McConnell" <chrissy_mcconnell@hotmail.com>]

I think Barb summed it up pretty good.

Isz is two, almost three and isn't exactly a working LGD as most usually 
think of them.  Not a big enough area yet, but he tries.  :)

His "dog food" is chicken based and he also gets a variety of raw meat with 
the raw bones, raw veggies, fruits, yogurt, eggs, etc. which I think I 
mentioned before.  :)

From what I've read, a dog can also have trouble digesting "dog food" due to 
the lack of enzymes or something in processed dog food.  Do I have this 
right Barb, etc.?

I've also read of a lady's LGDs who lived to 18-19 on high fat/protein, etc.

Chrissy

>>>>
>>>>Hi Keith. My dogs have been on very high protein foods for years. My
birthday boy Bo, who is now 12, was on 30 % protein until he was 9 1/2 years
old. The food they are on now is at 25 % but they are supplemented with raw
meat. It is not the protein content that causes kidney problems (barring
other factors such as genetic predisposition and toxins), it's the source of
the protein. Plant and grain proteins are difficult for a dog's system to
process, thereby causing the organs to over work. Meat protein is easily
processed. The food I'm feeding now  is 88 % derived from high quality
animal sources. So very little of the protein content is from grains. Most
kibble foods are mostly grain. I'd like to see Iams, Purina, etc. tell us
how much of their product is derived from meat sources. Some Vets are now
finding that dogs with kidney problems are doing well on raw food diets
which are mostly meat, but these "experiments" are still ongoing.

Barb Bowes
Bo & Chelsea (Pyrs) & Elle the foster Pyr
& Flopsy (Pyrenean Shepherd)
"The more people I meet, the more I like my dog!"
bamb@monmouth.com <<<<
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>From: LESRVG@aol.com
>Reply-To: pyrnet-l@pyrnet.org
>To: pyrnet-l@pyrnet.org
>Subject: [pyrnet] Hi protein
>Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 21:35:54 EST
>
>Interesting Chrissy, I have always avoided the high protein foods (>26%) 
>for
>fear of it being too hot for our Pyr.
>
>How old is Isaac?  Is he a working LGD?  The reason I asked is 
>this...before
>I knew any better we had a hunting black lab.  He was always on hi-pro food
>(you know..you  always hear that is what you are supposed to feed him), 
>then
>extremely suddenly around 7 years he got deathly ill in a matter of hours.
>We took him to the vet and he diagnosed liver/kidney damage due primarily 
>to
>the very high protein (you see the liver and kidneys had been working over
>time for years dealing with that rich rich diet), then suddenly- failure.
>
>He survived and lived until 13 on an ultra-low protein (16%) after that.
>
>To avoid a repeat of that with our pyr (which I have read are more prone to
>problems with high protein) we have always been shooting for 23-24% 
>protein.
>
>What are your folks experiences?  Please share.
>
>Keith, Soo, Dusty, and Romy
>
>
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