Re: [pyrnet] Cancer

["Nancy K" <nakhere@hotmail.com>]

Joe, can you tell me what commercial brand(s) you feed your dogs? Thanks so 
much. Nancy






>From: JGentzel@aol.com
>Reply-To: pyrnet-l@pyrnet.org
>To: pyrnet-l@pyrnet.org
>Subject: Re: [pyrnet] Cancer
>Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 06:50:59 EST
>
>In a message dated 12/9/2002 1:44:10 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>wetheri@emmanuel.edu writes:
>
>
> > Thanks for putting this in perspective, Linda--statistically, we must be
> > getting close to having a pyr die from something else--all four have 
>ended
> > up with cancer so far.
> > I did find a statistic on the web when doing some research recently 
>which
> > stated that 50% of all dogs over 10 develop some form of cancer, and 
>that
> > it's the 2nd leading cause of death (after accidents) overall in dogs.
> > Ann W
> >
>
>We have kept over  30 dogs in residence now for at least 20 years.  Most 
>live
>well over 10 years, mostly 12 to 15 years.  That is probably about 100 dogs
>plus over these years and in the 30 years we have been in the dog game the
>number is probably 120 or more dogs.  To date no bone cancer.  Some tumors
>that may have been cancerous on very old dogs in about 3 or 4 dogs.  That's
>it, so our data would skew the averages way toward lower incidence.  BTW, 
>we
>feed commercial kibble and supplement.  We also feed high protein high fat 
>in
>young dogs, show dogs being actively shown, and lactating bitches.  No
>problems at all, in fact our dogs on this food are always in the best
>condition of the lot.
>
>My personal bias (feeling now at this point of experience) is that these
>problems are related to genetics and to a lesser extent those detrimental
>recessive genes.  One of the main researchers at the University of Colorado
>in Cancer study made the statement that all cancer is "heritable" although 
>it
>may not be directly genetic.  Obviously a very complicated subject that we
>will not answer with a single subject like diet and even commercial food as
>there are too many type of genetics that influence this picture (genes that
>turn off this property or is resistant to that property, etc.).
>
>I think if my experience had all my dogs die of cancer I would also try 
>many
>things to stop or lower it (maybe diet as well).  I would though suggest
>trying also a different genetic makeup going forward with a lower incidence
>of occurrence.  My bias (again) is this would do more for the incidence
>incurred than the type food feed.  JMHO.
>
>Joe


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