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Re: [pyrnet] This Pyr almost looks like a red roan?

Hmm. I got that dog's picture from this thread on the Great Pyrenees Community site (http://toppooch.ning.com/forum/topics/1979071:Topic:5827?id=1979071%3ATopic%3A5827&page=1#comments). There, they claim that he is not arrouye, rather they dub him a "red head." I don't know a lot about arrouye, but I thought it was a dark red-rust color (that darkens with age unlike most Pyr pigmentation).

There was some disagreement on the thread as to what constitutes arrouye, but I did think that it had to do with the color of the markings showing under the extreme white spotting pattern.... and wouldn't be what would explain what I would have thought to be a deviation from the extreme white spotting pattern. Wouldn't roan affect the visibly pigmented areas of the dog, rather than the white that covers up the pigment? That dog's patches don't seem to be roaned.

I don't know a lot about this, and really appreciate your knowledge, Tracy. I'm not trying to be argumentative--I'm just trying to better understand!




*Andréa deCarlo*
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On 2/6/2011 4:21 AM, Tracy Bassett wrote: 
The dog (who is Angeyjas Admiral Benbow - World Winner Veteran 2008) is
a colour called 'arrouye' which is fairly highly prized and appreciated
as a colour in Pyreneans (particularly in Europe) though not overly common.

There seem to be some nice dogs of this colour being bred at the moment
however - Italy and Scandanavia have seen most in recent years though
there are definitely some in Western Europe.  Elena Vespa from Italy has
an article on it here: http://digilander.libero.it/monursita/arrouye3.htm

More common than Arrouye are tones of lemon or red in varying shades
(and wolf grey). The lemon colour is also seen in badger/blaireau
markings.  Note that arrouye is not a straight red, it is 'different'.

Roan is not a colour (or rather coat pattern as 'roaning' is an effect
on the base colour) you will see in Pyreneans.

Tracy Bassett
Espinay Pyrenean Mountain Dogs
"Putting te Breed before breeding"
Gunning NSW Australia
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On 6/02/2011 1:24 PM, Andréa deCarlo wrote:
http://api.ning.com/files/1R1gqINM7bygXCxSpCXSRaIdH*SxrZ6IkiXD3E*BjWOEpwEFFPxLYrLmNKTZohUmD5trL9pR0tLjhj*blAGr2cDAuRObmj26/strongredhead.JPG


Can anyone explain to me what's going on with this (beautiful) dog?
I've never seen coloring quite like it in a Pyr....