Re: [DL] Werewolf: the Savage West

[Allan Seyberth <darious@darious.com>]

> I wonder if PEG gets as much benefit from White Wolf as White Wolf gets
> from PEG. Sheesh. Those three Dime Novels are PEG advertising White 
> Wolf!

Probably more.  WW is a 1st tier game company that has a strong potential to be
the first RPG that a lot of gamers experience. Deadlands is a 2nd tier game in
that it is a setting/system that gamers find after they have been introduced to
the hobby.

Any 2nd tier system, in that it "feeds" off of a subset population base will
understandably have a smaller fan base.

The long and the short of it - odds are everyone in Deadlands has been exposed
to the tier one games, and I guarantee you that not everyone in the WW or DnD
base has been exposed to Deadlands.  

Or you can even look at it as an equilibium type effect :  (WW) 50000 players
<--> 5000 players (Deadlands).  (Numbers made up on the spot).  For every player
that may move to White Wolf, 10 players are likely to look at Deadlands.

-- 
Allan Seyberth
darious@darious.com







> White Wolf has a weird on-off thing for crossovers. Crossovers for 
> their main World Of Darkness games are considered unofficial, but fans 
> do it anyway and they've put just enough in to make it 
> kinda-sorta-work. One thing (which is nice) is that most splatbooks 
> contain a brief note on how the covered tribe or whatever sees the 
> other groups of it's game line and the other WoD stuff. It's nice, 
> considering how many possible 'groups' exist in the WoD before you ven 
> get down to the no-game-effect level of the secret societies that exist 
> in the larger groups.
> 
> One weird thing is that a lot of their games have 'work alikes' for the 
> other games... For example, Vampire has lupines, that fill the role of 
> werewolves without the baggage of Werewolf werewolves, but are 
> apparently more of jsut nasty critters.
> 
> Their Exalted game has some tenuous links to being prehistoric World of 
> Darkness... I don't know all the details, but theirs moon-tied beings 
> that I guess evolve into shape changers, sun-tied characters that are 
> linked to the power-imbued hunters.
> 
> And the new Demon game apparently ties a LOT of things together.
> 
> yet crossovers are unsupported, mainly because I don't think White Wolf 
> is insane enough to actually try and think of campaign material for a 
> group including a Garou, a Bastet (Cat shape changer), a Ratkin (Rat 
> shape changer), a couple of Vampires, a mummy, and a changeling. It's 
> hard enough trying to combine the various changing breeds from Werewolf 
> (A were-rat and a were-cat working together would be amusing, but then 
> again I'm a weird GM.) especially as WW did not attempt to make power 
> levels equivalent between games (Werewolf to Vampire) or in games 
> (Garou to other shape changers).
> 
> It's interesting, and even for those who don't like WW games (the only 
> one I really like is Werewolf, and that's because of a good GM) there's 
> a lot of good ideas to grab since WW has apparently been doing 
> something right...
> 
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