They usually play white hats and are the good guys. To be honest I can pin most of this on one player. He is use to being the GM and has some trouble not being in control. The others look to him naturaly because of this as the "leader". He is the one playing the indian with a wolf guardian spirit. This is what is making him jump in and be all physical (Might makes right kind of thing). The ranger guy goes along with it because he expects things for being a ranger so he is all for the take what you need/want attitude that the indian brings.
No they do not kill NPC's in other games (mostly cause the GM will not let them where as I am willing to let them hang themselves).
Carl Smith
Harry Canyon <harrycanyon@mac.com> wrote:
Hi Carl,
Just a couple of questions...
What type of game (either system or style) do these folks usually play? Do they frequently kill and maim innocent NPC‚s in other games?
Mostly I‚m just curious where they got the notion that „they‚re doing the right thing.‰ ;-)
FWIW, I think you‚re handling this the right way. And seeing as how they seem to be completely unrepentant and oblivious that they aren‚t being the White Hats, I think they‚ll probably need to come up with a new posse. (Hee hee, you could have the new posse track down and apprehend the old one. :-)
Take care,
Derek
> On 11/29/04 10:36 AM, "carl smith" <fishhook79@yahoo.com> wrote:
I may have to from the looks of it. The question now is how many PC casualties or repercussions will it take to make the group right again? One thing I need to consider is that they really do feel that they are "doing right". They are not going out "intentionally" to raise the fear level (at least not yet); it≠s just a byproduct of their actions.
Carl "What the hell happend to my group" Smith
Stephen Jacobs <steve@epciowa.com> wrote:
Hummmm∑ Maybe you should switch to playing an evil campaign. lol
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Subject: [DL] my group the update
Before i jump into this weeks update I want to thank everyone for there help and idea's. Before I only had my GM to turn to wh! en he was a player so there was little he could help me with as I could not give away plots or storylines. So everyone thank you :).
OK all you player types, get out of here as the next part touches on adventure info.
After the recap the group started out in the Dogs Eye saloon investigating the first murder. They did a good job of it though they were a bit heavy handed in getting info out of people. They locked the place down and almost held the people there by gun point. The Big Indian stood outside not caring what was going on.
FYI: The Ranger was talking about how he was going to find the mayor and FORCE him to give him marshal law over the town and how he was going to take control of the law and everyone else to catch the killer. He stated that it was his "Right as a ranger" to do this and that he is allowed even though they were in the disputed lands.
The fight broke out accross the street between Ralphie and Walters, but was to crowded for the indian to see what was going on. His answer to that was "Why should I care if white people kill eachother". He expressed no intrest at all until another party member pushed his way up and saw that a wilderness rider was involved. Then with out of character knowledge he "Drew his Tomohawk and pushed his way through the crowd to give him an ass beating".
They break up the fight with the indian trying to pick one with Ralphie. After one round of combat the other wilderness riders show up and everyone stares at eachother. So we have a ranger/hexslinge! r, a huckster/saloon gal, Gun fighter, an Indian, and a Cow poke trying to stair down 12 wilderness riders and the two brothers in a large crowd of people.
They were stupid... they started a fight.
Every stray bullet hit someone in the crowd even if it was not a party member. Lots of bitching as to how many attacks the bad guys got (12 guys with 3d6 shootin will hit people you know). The indian was dropped due to wind quickly (though looking back I should have had him shot in the head). Soul blasts and black lightnings were thrown around without concern for who was around and who was watching. ! nbsp;No party members died but there was more than one person looking at 4 wounds a location.
The party won though via killing the leaders and making the display that they did of there powers. The after math was a lot of dead and wounded townsfolk that they party did not help. The doc in the group did help some people but only to stabalize them, no further care was offered. It was his idea, and the party harrassed him for it.
When the party was up again with afew less wounds thanks to some helpin hands, they were confronted by the law. He told them they were all fired and that it was time for them t! o come down to the office to answer a few questions. F U was the answer and then things went sour. At first the ranger just tried to spirit coil some of them but then soul blasts started getting thrown out at the deputies and anyone else that looked like a threat. They did not care about how they got out of the town they left in a hurry.
On there way out they smacked some people upside the head from horse back or ran them down. The horses they rode were not there own, they stole them (a hanging offense as I recall). The night ended with the party on the lamb yelling profanities at the town and that they deserved what was coming to them. SO that is where we left the party. I have told my GM to run something next week as I want to play a little but I also! want to get some more time to prep. This is what I have so far.
The wilderness riders are still around and the leaders were not brain panned. The harrowed in the group had lost domminion and had taken some pot shots at the "hero's" during the fight. Some of the wilderness riders scooped up the body of Raphie (the crazy one) and run off with him thinking he was still alive. Now that i have total dominion over the harrowed I was thinking she would track down the wilderness riders and I would have Ralphie come back harrowed. Together they would lead the wilderness riders to do all kinds of dispicable things to include! tracking down the party (Ralphie was not happy that the party killed off his brother).
The "Ranger" in the group is already forming his version of what happend in the town and how he is going to word his report to HQ. I think that there was already some rangers or confed spies there that will tell a far better story than him and he will not be painted the white knight he thinks he is. Also he had kept his ability to hexsling from the rangers, I am sure they will not be happy to know that he lied to them.
The town I am sure will put up a reward for them and has all there names when they signed on. Enough people were hurt that I am sure there are more than a few vengful family members can start popping up as well as some indpendent investors hiring bou! nty hunters to track down the party. The laws broken so far to get the legit bounty hunters on them are Horse Theft, Murder, assassult, and robery (what was in the Saddle bags). I am sure there are more but cant think of them off the top my head. If you can think of any throw them my way. T! here is going to be more than a few embelished charges put on them anyway, as anything that went wrong is now going to be blamed on them.
They do not feel they deserve a black chip, but I would like to find a way get more in the pot. Based on there own antics, and the fact that the butcher was not even stopped (the first murder was being blamed on the Harrowed of the group). Thats two right there if I am not mistaken. So let me know what you all think, tell me wha! t you think. The group is happy it would seem with the way they are going.
Cheers all :)
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