Re: [HoE] John Hopler (time travel)

["Fuzyn9feet" <Fuzyn9feet@email.msn.com>]

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From: AJSolis@aol.com <AJSolis@aol.com>
To: hoe@gamerz.net <hoe@gamerz.net>
Date: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: [HoE] John Hopler (time travel)


>In a message dated 6/15/99 2:25:20 PM Central Daylight Time,
>Lister2500@aol.com writes:
>
>> WHY Templars
>> have their powers doesn't really matter.  In the Weird West, the SOURCE
of
>> their powers doesn't even exist.  They'd still be badasses with a sword,
>but
>>
>> they'd lose all their special skills.  The only argument against this
could
>>  be that the Saints bestow the rewards on Templars in much the same
manner
>as
>> >  a blessed, so that the Templar himself has that power now, instead of
>the
>>  spirits of dead heroes giving it to him at all times.
>>
>   Well, I admit that I don't own the Templar book, and so don't know all
the
>gritty details, but if they gain their powers from the saints, and the
saints
>are just those who have been martyred fighting the forces of evil, well
then
>I would have to say that there would be plenty of saints in the deadlands
>time, although individual saints which a Templar might call apon might not
>have been martyred yet.  Plus, I see no reason why the Templars couldn't
have
>already existed in the deadlands universe, after all it is only the most
>cliche secret society of them all.  Perhaps after the Reckoning they just
>went out into the open a bit.


It talks about the fact that once a Timplar gains his powers no mater what
they do they don't lose them. I think internalising the powers thing is
right to a point. After all if a Anti-Timplar turns to 'the Dark Side' fully
they still have their powers. I would argue that they still have their
powers but they can't learn more or advance them in the past, sense the
Saints aren't there to give it to them.

>> As for Doomsayers, I was never really clear on how their powers worked,
>> except for the fact that the radiation already in their bodies made them
>> more
>> open to the Glow.  If that's the correct interpretation, then they, too,
>>  would be bereft of their powers in the Weird West, as there is no Glow
in
>> 1876.
>>
>   Well, if their powers work by channeling the energy of the hunting
grounds
>as the rules indicate, and the radiation stuff is just a gimmick, then
their
>powers should work fine in deadlands.  If you see radiation as more
required
>than that, then I would have to point out that almost everything is
>radioactive to some small extant, in which case their powers would work,
they
>would just have a devil of a time waiting to recharge.


I think your right about the Doomsayers except that they could not regain
Strain unless they had a pure radiation source (like a Ghost-Rock Lamp).
After all it lets you know that the closer to a radiation source they gain
Strain faster. If the Doomsayer does have a radiation source (like a
Ghost-Rock Lamp) they can regain Strain as normal, other wise they're out of
luck and wouldn't regain Strain.

Christopher Merrill
W.H.A.T.T. Member