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From: "c m hylton" <cmhylton@earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 20:11:37 -0800
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>
> Or make it a child.  A very sinister Village of the Damned kind of child.
> Blonde, blue-eyed, totally mutation free, wearing a nice, clean,
patch-free
> school uniform.  Even cute, in a blank stare kinda way.
>
> Jeff Y.
> New HOE Marshal recently finished tormenting a posse in the Weird West.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-hoe@gamerz.net [mailto:owner-hoe@gamerz.net]On Behalf Of
> > Shawn Willett
> > Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 8:50 AM
> > To: hoe@gamerz.net
> > Subject: [HOE] Re: hoe-digest.20021214
> >
> >
> > That's a good variation of what I had in mind, but my point was that Los
> > Diablos needed to be upgraded for HoE. After almost 3 years of
> > running the
> > game, I've reached the conclusion that the bull just aint tough enough
to
> > even impress anyone in my game. Shawn
> >
> > "All I want for Christmas is a monster that'll last longer than 3
rounds"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: owner-hoe@gamerz.net
> > >Reply-To: hoe@gamerz.net
> > >To: hoe-digest@gamerz.net
> > >Subject: hoe-digest.20021214
> > >Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 23:59:41 -0500
> > >
> > >hoe-digest                                    Saturday, December 14,
2002
> > >
> > >
> > >[HOE] (HOE) MARSHALS ONLY!! New Evil   damarshal@hotmail.com
> > >Re: [HOE] (HOE) MARSHALS ONLY!! New    nbouqu1@prodigy.net
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> > >
> > >Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 09:31:10 -0600
> > >From: damarshal@hotmail.com
> > >Subject: [HOE] (HOE) MARSHALS ONLY!! New Evil Idea (MWAH!)
> > >
> > >
> > >SPOILER SPACE (Players Git!!)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >      Okay, so I was at work and I had an evil idea concerning 5 Grit.
I
> > >know
> > >it's been brought up before but I think Hell on Earth needs its
> > own special
> > >version of the Los Diablos. Cause let's face it, gang, most PCs
> > can take an
> > >AV 2 Size 10 armored bull without breaking a sweat, especially
> > if they are
> > >an Arcane Background. So, here's what you do instead of the same
> > old bull.
> > >By the time someone gets to 5 Grit they have become a pain in the
> > >Reckoner's
> > >collective butt, so the Reckoners spend a little mojo on them.
> > They whip up
> > >a doppleganger. What this means is you snag their character sheet or
you
> > >should have it written up in your Marshal's Log. You photocopy
> > it. You send
> > >them after themselves. My rationale for this is PCs aren't gonna skimp
on
> > >themselves. Most players will min-max their character to hell
> > and gone and
> > >if they've lasted long enough to gain 5 grit, they should be
> > fairly badass.
> > >Make the Bad Ash to their Good Ash, for example. Oh and just as an
added
> > >bonus, the doppleganger has all of thier powers, guns, cyborg devices,
> > >power
> > >armor, relic swords whatever. And only the PC who has 5 Grit can
> > affect the
> > >doppleganger. And the Fear check for facing an Evil version of yourself
> > >should be about 11. Yeah, yeah, I know you don't get the cumulative
fear
> > >checks for the bull or the ghostly herd, but who cares? The rest of the
> > >posse can be occupied with spending chips to help out or wasting
> > >ammo/Strain/effort trying to help kill the baddie. Another evil
> > thought is
> > >you have the doppleganger strike at night and then require
> > cognition checks
> > >from everyone to determine which one is the real PC. :) You get
> > to use the
> > >PC against his/herself and that should be worth it. I'm gonna
> > try it out on
> > >my new posse and see how it goes. Let me know how it goes cuz I
> > think it's
> > >a
> > >novel approach.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: owner-hoe@gamerz.net
> > > >Reply-To: hoe@gamerz.net
> > > >To: hoe-digest@gamerz.net
> > > >Subject: hoe-digest.20021213
> > > >Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 23:59:54 -0500
> > > >
> > > >hoe-digest                                      Friday,
> > December 13, 2002
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >[HOE] Deadcraft                        dms34@po.cwru.edu
> > > >Re: [HOE] Deadcraft                    mightygecko@juno.com
> > > >Re: [HOE] Deadcraft                    jason_d_young@yahoo.com
> > > >Re: [HOE] Deadcraft                    balance@tubas.net
> > > >Re: [HOE] Deadcraft
> > tanya.ellenburg-kimmet@wright.edu
> > > >
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>----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > >Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 09:56:47 -0500
> > > >From: dms34@po.cwru.edu
> > > >Subject: [HOE] Deadcraft
> > > >
> > > >I'm not really sure deadlands rules would be very conducive to
> > Starcraft.
> > > >Poker hands, raises, and the lack of supernatural stuff would
> > make it a
> > >bit
> > > >off.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Although, the rules for the Arbiter would be interesting.
> > > >
> > > >I didn't oppose a d20 system for Starcraft the RPG, but evidently the
> > >book
> > > >was
> > > >Piss-Poor for a subject that should have been a gimme.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >------------------------------
> > > >
> > > >Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 13:00:55 -0600
> > > >From: mightygecko@juno.com
> > > >Subject: Re: [HOE] Deadcraft
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On Fri, 13 Dec 2002 09:56:47 -0500 "Damon M Sutton"
<dms34@po.cwru.edu>
> > > >writes:
> > > > > I'm not really sure deadlands rules would be very conducive to
> > > > > Starcraft.
> > > > > Poker hands, raises, and the lack of supernatural stuff would make
> > > > > it a bit
> > > > > off.
> > > >
> > > >It's replacing the supernatural that is giving me the most
> > trouble right
> > > >now, especially when it comes to mysterious backgrounds. But the
Terran
> > > >society is SO like the human society of Lost Colony would be
> > in 200 years
> > > >if there was no involvment from.... "Well, play the unity" and
> > you'll kno
> > > >who. The cards and chips would work great for a bunch of
> > grizzled Terran
> > > >marines. Granted it wouldn't fit that nicly with a posse of all
> > > >Protoss... then again, having a posse of all Anouks in LC would be a
> > > >little strange with the cards and chips.
> > > >
> > > >Now if i tried Warcraft...... that would odd. Definatly D20 for that.
> > > >
> > > > > Although, the rules for the Arbiter would be interesting.
> > > >
> > > >I'm working on those....
> > > >
> > > > > I didn't oppose a d20 system for Starcraft the RPG, but evidently
> > > > > the book was
> > > > > Piss-Poor for a subject that should have been a gimme.
> > > >
> > > >I read one for the Alternity game line, but not d20. The
> > alternity wasn't
> > > >much interest, and I'm lazy and don't want to learn new game systems.
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >------------------------------
> > > >
> > > >Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 11:08:05 -0800 (PST)
> > > >From: jason_d_young@yahoo.com
> > > >Subject: Re: [HOE] Deadcraft
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--- David R Goecke <mightygecko@juno.com> wrote:
> > > > > Now if i tried Warcraft...... that would odd. Definatly D20
> > for that.
> > > >
> > > >No!!!!! The line is "Definitely Savage Worlds for that." :-)
> > > >
> > > > > I read one for the Alternity game line, but not d20. The alternity
> > > > > wasn't
> > > > > much interest, and I'm lazy and don't want to learn new
> > game systems.
> > > >
> > > >Do yourself a favor and check out Savage Worlds. It is going to be so
> > >much
> > > >easier to customize for different worlds than d20. I promise.
> > Well, Shane
> > > >promises only that it will be easy to customize, and doesn't draw a
> > > >comparison to d20, but I will. It'll be easier. You won't
> > regret checking
> > > >it out.
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >------------------------------
> > > >
> > > >Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 14:23:11 -0500
> > > >From: balance@tubas.net
> > > >Subject: Re: [HOE] Deadcraft
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On Friday, December 13, 2002, at 02:08  PM, Jason Young wrote:
> > > > >> Now if i tried Warcraft...... that would odd. Definatly
> > D20 for that.
> > > > >
> > > > > No!!!!! The line is "Definitely Savage Worlds for that." :-)
> > > > > Do yourself a favor and check out Savage Worlds. It is
> > going to be so
> > > > > much
> > > > > easier to customize for different worlds than d20. I promise.
Well,
> > > > > Shane
> > > > > promises only that it will be easy to customize, and doesn't draw
a
> > > > > comparison to d20, but I will. It'll be easier. You won't regret
> > > > > checking
> > > > > it out.
> > > >
> > > >Savage Worlds should also support the ability for a character to
> > > >command a squad of troops AND still get combat done in a reasonable
> > > >amount of time. Excellent for Starcraft, where a character would want
> > > >to be accompanied by a squad of NPC marines...
> > > >
> > > >Also, it looks like SW will deal better with nonhumans characters
than
> > > >Deadlands. Since only LC really needs nonhumans, it's not a big deal,
> > > >but it should make protoss charcaters easier to deal with.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >------------------------------
> > > >
> > > >Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 14:32:28 -0500
> > > >From: tanya.ellenburg-kimmet@wright.edu
> > > >Subject: Re: [HOE] Deadcraft
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Brett Dixon wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Savage Worlds should also support the ability for a character to
> > > > > command a squad of troops AND still get combat done in a
reasonable
> > > > > amount of time. Excellent for Starcraft, where a character
> > would want
> > > > > to be accompanied by a squad of NPC marines...
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, it looks like SW will deal better with nonhumans
> > characters than
> > > > > Deadlands. Since only LC really needs nonhumans, it's not a
> > big deal,
> > > > > but it should make protoss charcaters easier to deal with.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >Oh, yeah!  This concept would be most excellent for Savage Worlds!!!
> > > >
> > > >In fact, I would love to play in a Savage Worlds: Starcraft game
> > > >sometime...
> > > >Wow!
> > > >
> > > >-imp
> > > >Already picturing my little broodlings spawning into sunken
> > colonies and
> > > >all.  Oooh! and then the little dudes that look like Bab5 shadow
ships!
> > > >And
> > > >you get to use miniatures too!
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >******
> > > >Tanya Ellenburg-Kimmet
> > > >Dunbar Library Interlibrary Loan (WSU)
> > > >and Collection Development
> > > >Wright State University
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >"See, this is a school. And we have students and they check out books
> > > >and then they learn things."
> > > >"I was beginning to suspect that was a myth." -Buffy the Vampire
Slayer
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >------------------------------
> > > >
> > > >End of hoe-digest.20021213
> > > >***********************************
> > >
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> > >
> > >Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 10:40:37 -0800
> > >From: nbouqu1@prodigy.net
> > >Subject: Re: [HOE] (HOE) MARSHALS ONLY!! New Evil Idea (MWAH!)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Shawn Willett wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > SPOILER SPACE (Players Git!!)
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >     Okay, so I was at work and I had an evil idea concerning 5 Grit.
I
> > > > know it's been brought up before but I think Hell on Earth needs its
> > > > own special version of the Los Diablos. Cause let's face it, gang,
> > > > most PCs can take an AV 2 Size 10 armored bull without breaking a
> > > > sweat, especially if they are an Arcane Background. So, here's what
> > > > you do instead of the same old bull. By the time someone gets to 5
> > > > Grit they have become a pain in the Reckoner's collective butt, so
the
> > > > Reckoners spend a little mojo on them. They whip up a doppleganger.
> > > > What this means is you snag their character sheet or you should have
> > > > it written up in your Marshal's Log. You photocopy it. You send them
> > > > after themselves. My rationale for this is PCs aren't gonna skimp on
> > > > themselves. Most players will min-max their character to hell and
gone
> > > > and if they've lasted long enough to gain 5 grit, they should be
> > > > fairly badass. Make the Bad Ash to their Good Ash, for example. Oh
and
> > > > just as an added bonus, the doppleganger has all of thier powers,
> > > > guns, cyborg devices, power armor, relic swords whatever. And only
the
> > > > PC who has 5 Grit can affect the doppleganger. And the Fear check
for
> > > > facing an Evil version of yourself should be about 11. Yeah, yeah, I
> > > > know you don't get the cumulative fear checks for the bull or the
> > > > ghostly herd, but who cares? The rest of the posse can be occupied
> > > > with spending chips to help out or wasting ammo/Strain/effort trying
> > > > to help kill the baddie. Another evil thought is you have the
> > > > doppleganger strike at night and then require cognition checks from
> > > > everyone to determine which one is the real PC. :) You get to use
the
> > > > PC against his/herself and that should be worth it. I'm gonna try it
> > > > out on my new posse and see how it goes. Let me know how it goes cuz
I
> > > > think it's a novel approach.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >never go for the kill when you can go for the pain
> > >
> > >evil doppleganger for the PC to fight.... *yawn*
> > >
> > >evil doppleganger ruining rep of PC, and turning the entire Wasted West
> > >against them..... slightly more interesting
> > >
> > >Marshal Nick
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >------------------------------
> > >
> > >End of hoe-digest.20021214
> > >***********************************
> >
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