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I am new to this whole chat thing but am hoping that this is the proper
format to send out a query to whomever might be out there. Dave and I
are the proud new parents of a lovely 6-month old pyr named Monty who is
a delight! I cheerfully admit that I am besotted but I am new to pyrs
and am constantly amazed with their good natures.... that said, we have
a problem that doesn't seem to be going away (which we may have made
worse through our ignorance-we are also novice dog owners as well...).
Monty is usually very resposive to us and seems to be well socialized-he
LOVES people especially small ones! The one thing is that he tends to
play rough with us (part of my frustration is wrapped up with feelings
of guilt that we screwed up by wrasseling with him too rough). In
anycase, he tends to do it more with me who he considers his playmate
than with Dave who is more of an authority figure... usually it consists
of mouthing arms, sometimes bearing down hard enough to pull us over to
wherever he wants us to go... or nipping. We have tried ouch (in way to
many formats-he doesn't respond to any particular tone and probably is
just confused with the variety of responses he gets from us. We have
tried speaking sternly-no avail. Shouting never works-he just ignores
you. We have him crate trained-so when he gets too excited we sometimes
will try 'time out' in his crate but even that doesn't work all of the
time. I have a feeling he is BORED and hyped up as a result...Dave and I
work during the day and I am afraid that won't change anytime soon. Any
tips? Is this normal puppy behaviour? Did we screw him up forever? Help!
Liz and Dave and a very rambunctious Monty!
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pyrnet-l-owner@gamerz.net [SMTP:pyrnet-l-owner@gamerz.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 1998 11:53 PM
> To: pyrnet-l-digest@gamerz.net
> Subject: pyrnet-l-digest.19980707
>
> pyrnet-l-digest Tuesday, July 7,
> 1998
>
>
> Re: [PyrNet-L] health question pribb@feist.com
> [PyrNet-L] LUCY chewbear@msn.com
> [PyrNet-L] CARE, BEHAVIOR, CHAT: Bew MagEBroD@aol.com
> Re: [PyrNet-L] Independence Day MagEBroD@aol.com
> Re: [PyrNet-L] Chat: Brag Impyrial@aol.com
> Re: [PyrNet-L] Heidi in Puppy Pre-sc MagEBroD@aol.com
> Re: [PyrNet-L] Puppy Pre-school MagEBroD@aol.com
> Re: [PyrNet-L] Chat: Brag JGentzel@aol.com
> Re: [PyrNet-L] health question bcoate@cwis.net
> Re: [PyrNet-L] BIS on the 4th of Jul pyreau@erols.com
> Re: [PyrNet-L] Chat: Brag pyreau@erols.com
> Re: [PyrNet-L] health question homegirl@mindspring.com
> Re: [PyrNet-L] Heidi in Puppy Pre-sc pyreau@erols.com
> Re: [PyrNet-L] health question pyreau@erols.com
> Re: [PyrNet-L] Heidi in Puppy Pre-sc homegirl@mindspring.com
> Re: [PyrNet-L] health question draggon@STC.Net
> Re: [PyrNet-L] BIS on the 4th of Jul jdmigas@email.msn.com
> Re: [PyrNet-L] health question pribb@feist.com
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 23:07:36 -0500
> From: pribb@feist.com
> Subject: Re: [PyrNet-L] health question
>
> This is off the subject of Pyrs, but I don't know anyone on a Labrador
> list:
>
> My sister's yellow lab, which has always been quite healthy, has
> suddenly
> began vomiting after every meal. They have tried cutting back on what
> she
> eats, down to just a small amount in the morning and in the evening,
> because if they give her more than that, she woofs it down and
> immediately
> vomits it back up.
>
> Are any of you familiar with this type of problem and what can be
> done?
> She is about 9 years old now. We are experiencing extremely hot
> weather
> here (over 100 degrees) and don't know if that has anything to do with
> it.
> She spends most of her day inside an air conditioned house.
>
> If you could let me know the email address of anyone familiar with
> this
> breed, I would appreciate it.
>
> Tracy
> pribb@feist.com Bentley, Kansas
> http://www.feist.com/~pribb
>
> ----------
> > From: Ann Wetherilt <wetheri@emmanuel.edu>
> > To: pyrnet-l@gamerz.net
> > Subject: [PyrNet-L] pyrs and digging
> > Date: Monday, July 06, 1998 7:18 PM
> >
> > Finally, we've found the answer! Thanks to Nancy and Charley Huggard
> and
> > Barney, Paddington discovered the joys of the sandbox at Christmas
> when
> we
> > visited in Florida. Also thanks to Charley's great plans, Paddington
> now
> > has his own sandbox, just the right size to fit a large pyr, lots of
> cool
> > damp sand, a chin rest to enable him to keep an eye on the world. In
> the
> > month since I finally put it together, he hasn't dug anywhere else.
> Now,
> > Ivy Rose is showing an interest in it. If she gets in, he goes
> rushing
> > over, climbs in behind her, and eventually nudges her out. Oh well,
> back
> > to Home Depot for more lumber, I guess! That cool damp sand must
> feel
> > terrific on hot days.
> > Ann, Peg, Paddington and Ivy Rose
> > PS Ivy Rose starts a beginner's obedience class tomorrow, as much
> for
> > socialization as anything. Wish us luck....and the trainer!
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 01:17:39 -0700
> From: chewbear@msn.com
> Subject: [PyrNet-L] LUCY
>
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> Hi Deanna, Wow! you have come a long way with Lucy considering she's =
> only 3 mos old. We only started with Heidi at that age. I was about
> to =
> tell you that Heidi doesn't "play-bite" when I realized that she most
> =
> certainly does - with our 16mo. old Samoyed, Chewbear. He takes care
> of =
> disciplining her when she gets too rough. She comes to us for hugs &
> =
> cuddles. Our biggest problem to date is THE PYR-PAW. We are trying
> to =
> discourage her from swatting us with her paw for attention. I have =
> trouble imagining a dog who weighs 125 lbs. whacking me with a paw!!!
>
> Did you read the suggestion re the digging problem? It sounds like a =
> possible solution. We just finished resodding a whole area of the
> back =
> yard that had interesting dirt (to Heidi). We also put down white
> stone =
> in another area to discourage her. The first day she tried to eat the
> =
> stones. Our Vet says that puppies are just vacuum cleaners on four =
> legs, er, paws.
>
> It's very interesting to me how alike puppies & children are in
> certain =
> aspects of their behavior. FOR ALL OF YOU OUT THERE....I AM IN NO WAY
> =
> SAYING THAT CHILDREN ARE LIKE DOGS SO PLEASE DON'T SEND OUTRAGED
> E-MAIL =
> TO ME.=20
>
> Having raised 3 children, I can tell you that our Samoyed displays =
> jealousy as well as other behaviors of siblings so if you think your
> dog =
> is lonely & you want to rectify the problem, send he/she to doggie =
> daycare. It's a lot easier & probably no more expensive. =20
>
> Deanna, I don't know if you have a PETSMART where you live. If you
> do, =
> they have very reasonable prices for puppy training. Heidi's trainer
> =
> shows her dog, Laddie, a border collie & has won all sorts of prizes =
> particularly in the fields of behavior & socialization.
>
> Both our Pyr & our Samoyed would rather be with people than with other
> =
> dogs, Heidi more so. I imagine they think of young children as neat =
> toys.
>
> A funny story.....our Samoyed loves to go for car rides. His day is =
> made whenever someone in another car waves to him. And if we're on a
> =
> walk & someone stops to admire him, he can hardly contain himself. If
> =
> we are riding & he is not getting waves, he starts whining & pacing on
> =
> the back seat. This is to indicate to us that it is time to hunt down
> =
> people to coo over him. Heidi is right there with him to get cooed
> over =
> but she doesn't deign to beg for other people's attention....she
> leaves =
> that part to him...he does it soooo well.
>
> On the subject of the car, Heidi still has a problem with motion =
> sickness. She has tossed her cookies the last 2 times we've been out.
> =
> I'm hoping it has much to do with the heat, even tho' our vehicle has
> =
> AC. =20
>
> For that play-biting problem, there is a suggestion involving yelling
> =
> OUCH or something. All I can tell you is that if I yell at Heidi, she
> =
> ignores me completely (unlike Chewbear, who will do anything in his =
> power not to hear me yell). I have to get down in front of her, try to
> =
> imitate a baritone & speak to her sternly. Not to says this works
> well, =
> but it does work sometimes.
>
> One last tidbit....the trainer says that all new lessons at this point
> =
> should be started indoors (away from such distractions as blades of =
> grass, ants, wind, etc.). And, under no circumstances should you use
> the =
> come command off leash yet. The pup must have the command down pat on
> =
> lead first. If you use the come command & are unable to enforce it =
> after one call, you have undone all preceeding training. When =
> practicing lessons, a command (no matter which one) should only be
> given =
> once. If it is not obeyed & you must repeat it, enforce the command by
> =
> hands on demonstration ( such as turning head toward you for "watch
> me" =
> command). =20
>
> Oh, I think Heidi recognized her name about three wks ago. The best
> =
> thing I can tell you is to love her & love her & spend time grooming
> her =
> now so that she'll be used to it when her real hair comes in, probably
> =
> about 9 mos. from now. =20
> Kathy, Joe, Chewbear(Sammy) and Heidi(pyr)
> Wish you well.. Woof, Woof
>
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> size=3D2>Hi =
> Deanna, Wow!=20
> you have come a long way with Lucy considering she's only 3 mos =
> old. We=20
> only started with Heidi at that age. I was about to tell you
> that =
> Heidi=20
> doesn't "play-bite" when I realized that she most certainly
> =
> does -=20
> with our 16mo. old Samoyed, Chewbear. He takes care of =
> disciplining her=20
> when she gets too rough. She comes to us for hugs & =
> cuddles. Our=20
> biggest problem to date is THE PYR-PAW. We are trying to =
> discourage her=20
> from swatting us with her paw for attention. I have trouble imagining
> a =
> dog who=20
> weighs 125 lbs. whacking me with a paw!!!</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
> <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#800080 face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
> size=3D2></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
> <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#800080 face=3D"Times New Roman"
> size=3D2>Did =
> you read the=20
> suggestion re the digging problem? It sounds like a possible =
> solution. We=20
> just finished resodding a whole area of the back yard that had =
> interesting dirt=20
> (to Heidi). We also put down white stone in another area to =
> discourage=20
> her. The first day she tried to eat the stones. Our Vet says
> that =
> puppies=20
> are just vacuum cleaners on four legs, er, paws.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
> <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#800080 face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
> size=3D2></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
> <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#800080 face=3D"Times New Roman" =
> size=3D2>It's very=20
> interesting to me how alike puppies & children are in certain =
> aspects of=20
> their behavior. FOR ALL OF YOU OUT THERE....I AM IN NO WAY
> SAYING =
> THAT=20
> CHILDREN ARE LIKE DOGS SO PLEASE DON'T SEND OUTRAGED E-MAIL TO ME.=20
> </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
> <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#800080 face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
> size=3D2></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
> <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#800080 face=3D"Times New Roman" =
> size=3D2>Having raised 3=20
> children, I can tell you that our Samoyed displays jealousy as well as
> =
> other=20
> behaviors of siblings so if you think your dog is lonely & you
> want =
> to=20
> rectify the problem, send he/she to doggie daycare. It's a lot easier
> =
> &=20
> probably no more expensive. </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
> <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#800080 face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
> size=3D2></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
> <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#800080 face=3D"Times New Roman" =
> size=3D2>Deanna, I don't=20
> know if you have a PETSMART where you live. If you do, they have
> =
> very=20
> reasonable prices for puppy training. Heidi's trainer shows her
> =
> dog,=20
> Laddie, a border collie & has won all sorts of prizes particularly
> =
> in the=20
> fields of behavior & socialization.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
> <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#800080 face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
> size=3D2></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
> <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#800080 face=3D"Times New Roman" =
> size=3D2>Both our Pyr=20
> & our Samoyed would rather be with people than with other dogs, =
> Heidi more=20
> so. I imagine they think of young children as neat=20
> toys.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
> <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#800080 face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
> size=3D2></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
> <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#800080 face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D2>A
> =
> funny=20
> story.....our Samoyed loves to go for car rides. His day is made
> =
> whenever=20
> someone in another car waves to him. And if we're on a
> walk =
> &=20
> someone stops to admire him, he can hardly contain himself. =
> If we=20
> are riding & he is not getting waves, he starts whining &
> pacing =
> on the=20
> back seat. This is to indicate to us that it is time to hunt
> down =
> people=20
> to coo over him. Heidi is right there with him to get cooed over
> =
> but she=20
> doesn't deign to beg for other people's attention....she leaves that =
> part to=20
> him...he does it soooo well.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
> <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#800080 face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
> size=3D2></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
> <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#800080 face=3D"Times New Roman"
> size=3D2>On =
> the subject of=20
> the car, Heidi still has a problem with motion sickness. She has
> =
> tossed=20
> her cookies the last 2 times we've been out. I'm hoping it has =
> much to do=20
> with the heat, even tho' our vehicle has AC. =
> </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
> <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#800080 face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
> size=3D2></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
> <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#800080 face=3D"Times New Roman"
> size=3D2>For =
> that=20
> play-biting problem, there is a suggestion involving yelling OUCH
> or=20
> something. All I can tell you is that if I yell at Heidi, she =
> ignores me=20
> completely (unlike Chewbear, who will do anything in his power not to
> =
> hear me=20
> yell). I have to get down in front of her, try to imitate a baritone =
> & speak=20
> to her sternly. Not to says this works well, but it does work=20
> sometimes.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
> <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#800080 face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
> size=3D2></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
> <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#800080 face=3D"Times New Roman"
> size=3D2>One =
> last=20
> tidbit....the trainer says that all new lessons at this point should
> be =
> started=20
> indoors (away from such distractions as blades of grass, ants, wind, =
> etc.). And,=20
> under no circumstances should you use the come command off leash =
> yet. The=20
> pup must have the command down pat on lead first. If you use the
> =
> come=20
> command & are unable to enforce it after one call, you have undone
> =
> all=20
> preceeding training. When practicing lessons, a command (no
> matter =
> which=20
> one) should only be given once. If it is not obeyed & you must =
> repeat it,=20
> enforce the command by hands on demonstration ( such as turning head =
> toward you=20
> for "watch me" command). </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
> <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#800080 face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
> size=3D2></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
> <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#800080 face=3D"Times New Roman"
> size=3D2>Oh, =
> I think Heidi=20
> recognized her name about three wks ago. The best thing I
> =
> can tell=20
> you is to love her & love her & spend time grooming her now so
> =
> that=20
> she'll be used to it when her real hair comes in, probably about 9
> mos. =
> from=20
> now. </FONT></STRONG><STRONG><FONT color=3D#800080 face=3D"Times
> =
> New Roman"=20
> size=3D2><BR>Kathy, Joe, Chewbear(Sammy) and Heidi(pyr)<BR>Wish you =
> well.. Woof,=20
> Woof</FONT></STRONG> </DIV></BODY></HTML>
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>
> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 05:27:44 EDT
> From: MagEBroD@aol.com
> Subject: [PyrNet-L] CARE, BEHAVIOR, CHAT: Beware of snapping dogs on
> Fourth Of July
>
> I realize this is after the Fourth Of July, but I witnessed something
> this
> Fourth that we should all be aware of. I went to a Bar-B-Q at some
> friends
> that we've known for many years and cared for their dogs when they
> traveled.
> Their dogs have never nipped at us or our children. This is the first
> time
> I've been around their dogs on Fourth Of July though. One dog is
> totally
> freaked out by fireworks. A guest went to pet this dog and got nipped.
> Later,
> thinking I had a bond with the dog that this other woman didn't and
> also
> "feeling" for the dog and wanting to calm the dog down, I went up to
> the dog
> and she was looking frantic and slobbering and really in a panicked
> state. I
> knealt down and reached out to pet the dog and it was looking at
> fireworks
> instead and seemed suddenly startled and snapped in my direction. I
> said her
> name and talked to her a while and then was able to calm the dog down
> and
> eventually pet her and reassure her some. My heart continued to go out
> to this
> dog so much.
> I hate the loud fireworks on the Fourth Of July! I have never
> understood
> why they are allowed. You can have beautiful displays without the
> deafening
> noises. So WHY???? These poor animals suffer so. (Plus my own ears
> don't
> appreciate it either!) I'm lucky in that my dog doesn't freak out
> with storms
> and fireworks, but so many do.
> We need to be aware that dogs that are normally the sweetest dogs
> in the
> world can when stressed and scared to the MAX, react in ways they
> normally
> wouldn't and may snap, bite, run away, etc. Be especially cautious
> with
> children around dogs at this time.
>
> Janice Vocke
> MagEBroD@aol.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 06:04:13 EDT
> From: MagEBroD@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [PyrNet-L] Independence Day
>
> In a message dated 98-07-04 19:44:39 EDT, Tracey wrote:
>
> << Near the parade start, there were several little children shooting
> off the
> little firecrackers. Well -- that's scares Rodman to death, and we
> like to
> never got him calmed down and started down the route. I ended up
> having to
> walk alongside my daughter & Pyr, even though it was the "kids" part
> of the
> parade, in order to keep him in control. Then they had fire trucks
> and
> police cars behind us (blowing horns & sirens) and all types of loud
> ATV's,
> etc. etc, and you get the picture. >>
>
>
> Tracey,
> May try sitting out a few, particpipant-wise, and having Rodman sit
> by you
> and watch parades with you to desensitize him to the noises and
> strange
> activity.
> Took Albert to a parade and he hated the drums in the marching
> bands!!!
> Totally freaked when they came by. He got better with each band that
> passed,
> though. He also wanted to go to the horses in the parade and had to
> really
> hold him back. The sirens, horns and such never bothered him at all.
> (Go
> figure!) He also was very confused by the clowns and the person in the
> bear
> costume!!
> And then there was his mother's owner coming by and him having to
> slime her
> nearly to death!! He always remembers Becky & loves to see her!
> Then there was his sister Heidi coming by to visit and them
> wrestling like
> crazy as they always do and getting all tangled up in their leashes!!
> What a
> sight!! Great fun, though!
> Think I'd do at least one more parade before considering ever
> having him in
> one.
> We'll see....
> Desensitizing does really help, though, usually. Good Luck!
>
> Janice Vocke
> MagEBroD@aol.com
> Shelton, WA.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 06:23:25 EDT
> From: Impyrial@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [PyrNet-L] Chat: Brag
>
> Hi Marcy!
> Congrats on some wonderful winning!
> Karen Justin
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 07:41:59 EDT
> From: MagEBroD@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [PyrNet-L] Heidi in Puppy Pre-school
>
> In a message dated 98-07-06 12:16:14 EDT, you write:
>
> << A few days ago, he took one of his huge chew toys (a shark), chewed
> it for
> a
> while, and then started chewing on the rug again with the shark for
> cover
> (hiding his mouth). Sigh.
>
> Christina >>
>
> Christina,
> Albert does the same thing!!! He'll take a "Good Chew" (toys,
> knotted socks
> and rags, etc.) and be chewing right next to a "Bad Chew" (major
> appliances,
> furniture, stairs, walls, you-name-it!) and next thing you know he's
> chewing
> the "Bad Chew"!!! It's such a non-chalant thing that it's hard to
> catch him at
> first! And when you do he immediately starts chewing the "Good Chew"
> again as
> if to say "Silly me!! So sorry! My mouth accidentally strayed!" (Yeah,
> right!
> And if I believe that I'm told there's a bridge for sale in
> Brooklyn!!) He
> does this all the time!!! They are too smart for our good sometimes!!!
>
> :0 & ;)```` (me screaming & Albert winking and drooling!)
>
> Janice Vocke
> MagEBroD@aol.com
> Shelton, WA.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 08:00:05 EDT
> From: MagEBroD@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [PyrNet-L] Puppy Pre-school
>
> In a message dated 98-07-06 12:55:51 EDT, you write:
>
> << Lucy also is **very** excited about children. Nevermind
> cats/squirrels/dogs etc. But if she hears a childs voice, she locks
> on
> and I can't distract her away. Mind you she is very nice and
> submissive
> when they come over to play, but (believe it or not) not all children
> want to come over and say hi to her. So she sits and wags and waits
> and
> wags and waits...then the kids walk right by her......then you'd
> think
> she was gonna cry. As her mom, this is very depressing to watch. >>
>
> Albert is exactly the same way, except with all people, not just
> children!
> He gets such a sad disappointed look on his face if someone doesn't
> pet him.
> He stops and looks after them so forlorn. I often will try to tell
> people that
> he's a sweetie and loves to be pet and may lick you is all. Then they
> are
> more apt to comply and give him some attention. Sadly, the bigger he
> gets, the
> more people shy away and are leary of him.
>
> :( & :(``` (me feeling sad for Albert and Albert sad & drooling)
>
> Janice Vocke
> MagEBroD@aol.com
> Shelton, WA.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 08:34:50 EDT
> From: JGentzel@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [PyrNet-L] Chat: Brag
>
> In a message dated 98-07-06 18:51:43 EDT, you write:
>
> << A great day the 4th of July for a dog named Patton.
> Tip'N Chip's Honor and Pride (Patton) his first show as a special
> winning B.I.S.
> He is my first B.I.S. dog.
> Pattons first show was the National this year, he was WD and BOW.
> Finished with 4 shows, 3 BOB over specials
> 2- 5 pt majors a 4 pt major and 2 points, a group 2 from the classes
> Marcy >>
>
> A great day for Pyrs in General. Congratulations on such a fine win.
> The
> latest "Edition" from the outstanding Tip'N Chip Kennels, now in its
> third, or
> is it fourth, Generation of family. Certainly a dynasty, that this
> breed has
> not seen before. Best to you and your family.
>
> Joe Gentzel
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 08:59:15 -0500
> From: bcoate@cwis.net
> Subject: Re: [PyrNet-L] health question
>
> Has she tried any Pepto Bismo. Works wonders for upset stomachs.
> But at this age I would have the vet look at her.
> Beverly Coate
> C&C Farms Stigler OK
> bcoate@cwis.net
>
> > My sister's yellow lab, which has always been quite healthy, has
> suddenly
> > began vomiting after every meal.
> > >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 10:17:42 -0400
> From: pyreau@erols.com
> Subject: Re: [PyrNet-L] BIS on the 4th of July
>
> Rivergrove@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > Rivergroves You Be the Judge (Supreme) got his 1st BIS on Saturday
> July 4th.
> > It was also his 1st (3 for 3) weekend...(Group 1) all 3 days.
>
> Congratulations to Supreme and Jean!! Hope this is the beginning of
> many more. Understand that Supreme's daughter, Hillary, also finished
> that weekend putting Ssupreme in the Hall of Fame as a sire too!
> Charlotte
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 10:21:26 -0400
> From: pyreau@erols.com
> Subject: Re: [PyrNet-L] Chat: Brag
>
> Marcy Nelson wrote:
> >
> > A great day the 4th of July for a dog named Patton.
> > Tip'N Chip's Honor and Pride (Patton) his first show as a special
> > winning B.I.S.
> > He is my first B.I.S. dog.
> > Pattons first show was the National this year, he was WD and BOW.
> > Finished with 4 shows, 3 BOB over specials
> > 2- 5 pt majors a 4 pt major and 2 points, a group 2 from the classes
> > Marcy
>
> Congratulations Marcy and Patton! Best wishes for many more BIS wins.
> Do you know if there are video tapes available of the 1998 National
> Specialty? I would love a chance to see Patton.
> Charlotte
> Charlotte
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 08:24:14 -0600
> From: homegirl@mindspring.com
> Subject: Re: [PyrNet-L] health question
>
> Tracy,
>
> I'd take this seriously. Why hasn't the lab been into the vet yet? Or
> at
> least talk to a technician or someone over the phone?
>
> The vomiting could be a sign of something serious. Unless your sister
> has
> changed dog foods recently. Please make sure the lab also has plenty
> of
> water to drink as dehydration is a real problem. But she probably
> needs
> more- maybe electrolytes, etc. But please get the lab into the vet to
> be
> seen. (Could have swallowed something, you're familiar with the bloat
> symptoms recently posted?)
>
> Keep us posted,
> Christina
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 10:42:38 -0400
> From: pyreau@erols.com
> Subject: Re: [PyrNet-L] Heidi in Puppy Pre-school
>
> Jane Gill wrote:
>
> > Oh, heck, I can't resist. For a few ideas on some games/training
> > games to play with your pup, I have some training notes on my
> > heretofore deep dark secret web page which only existed for my
> > personal tinkering. The puppy stuff is at:
> >
> > http://www.users.fast.net/~janegill/eloise.htm
> >
> Hi Jane,
> Loved your web site and cute pictures of Wheezie!! I particularly
> liked
> your game teaching Wheezie to come.....wonder what the neighbors think
> watching you run around with the fuzzy snake and a dog treat in your
> mouth!! Our pups are just babies now, but I will be checking in on
> your web site for tidbits on training soon!
> Charlotte
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 10:54:58 -0400
> From: pyreau@erols.com
> Subject: Re: [PyrNet-L] health question
>
> Tracy Pribbenow wrote:
>
> > My sister's yellow lab, which has always been quite healthy, has
> suddenly
> > began vomiting after every meal.
>
> Tracy, I do hope that your sister takes her dog to the Vet. This
> sounds
> like something that needs a Vet's attention as soon as possible. If
> the
> dog is vomiting frequently, I would worry about dehydration.
> Charlotte
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 09:14:46 -0600
> From: homegirl@mindspring.com
> Subject: Re: [PyrNet-L] Heidi in Puppy Pre-school
>
> Albert & Mukki must be brothers at heart!
>
> Hee hee hee!
> Christina
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 13:16:56 -0700
> From: draggon@STC.Net
> Subject: Re: [PyrNet-L] health question
>
> > If you could let me know the email address of anyone familiar with
> this
> > breed, I would appreciate it.
>
> Labs, like goldens, have a tendancy to "eat" the darndest things.
> Could
> it be possible that something is obstructing the stomache??? Its
> amazing at what they can swollow...and sometimes exploritory surgery
> is
> needed to find it...
>
>
> --
>
>
> Adrienne Wilder
> Murrayville GA
>
> "Oh, to be loved by a dog!"
>
> Home of:
> The golden gang,
> Patou and the evil sister geese.
> and many stray cats.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 18:09:57 -0400
> From: jdmigas@email.msn.com
> Subject: Re: [PyrNet-L] BIS on the 4th of July
>
> Jean & Wayne
>
> Big Congratulations! WOW he truly is "Supreme"!
>
> Take care,
> Dianne Migas - NJ
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 21:27:54 -0500
> From: pribb@feist.com
> Subject: Re: [PyrNet-L] health question
>
> Thanks to all for the advice on my sister's yellow lab. Talking with
> her
> on the phone again today, I guess it isn't as severe as I first was
> led to
> believe -- it has only happened a few times, not every meal. She is
> drinking water just fine.
> At my urging (and yours), my sister plans to call the vet tomorrow and
> explain the symptoms and see what the vet says. Thanks again.
> Tracy
> pribb@feist.com Bentley, Kansas
> http://www.feist.com/~pribb
>
> ----------
> > From: Charlotte & Jack Perry <pyreau@erols.com>
> > To: pyrnet-l@gamerz.net
> > Subject: Re: [PyrNet-L] health question
> > Date: Tuesday, July 07, 1998 9:54 AM
> >
> > Tracy Pribbenow wrote:
> >
> > > My sister's yellow lab, which has always been quite healthy, has
> suddenly
> > > began vomiting after every meal.
> >
> > Tracy, I do hope that your sister takes her dog to the Vet. This
> sounds
> > like something that needs a Vet's attention as soon as possible. If
> the
> > dog is vomiting frequently, I would worry about dehydration.
> > Charlotte
>
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>
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