Re: [PyrNet-L] shock collars and walking off lead -Reply

["Janice Swenson" <janices@jump.net>]

On 5 Nov 99, at 8:41, Jack & Charlotte Perry wrote:
> One thing
> that became apparent very soon was that people who used the harsher
> methods of training were much more likely to have dogs that showed
> agression towards their trainers. 

Charlotte, this is correct in general with the use of shock collars.  I 
did a little searching and I'll post a link to an article on the 
Association of Pet Behavior Counselors website on use of shock 
collars and the pitfalls you can get yourself into with use.  

http://www.apbc.org.uk/ARTICLE2.htm

The problem is if they're used they should ONLY be used by an 
experienced behaviorist and unfortunately they are sold to novices 
who don't have a clue to how shock can affect their dog.  
Trainers/behaviorists have seen many dogs who are jumpy, nervous 
and quick to bite if touched when don't expect it from use of shock 
collars. 

Now on to prong collars.  There's a proper way to fit and use a 
prong and in the right hands fine.  I had some stats from seminars 
on their use and if I find them I'll post them.  I remember the prong 
up at about 2nd for misuse and trainers and public not knowing 
how to use or fit them for proper use.  They should not be used on 
any dog prone to aggression because they're known to heighten 
aggression and as a matter-of-fact it's recommended they not be 
used on breeds that are guardian breeds for the reasons cited.  The 
dog instictively will deal with something that tightens around the 
neck and pinches (similates a dog biting into the neck).  Also, 
should not use on very soft dogs and never be used on puppies.  
Now when you take these out of the range there really isn't many 
dogs they ever should be used on.    

Now off my soapbox.  


Janice, janices@jump.net
Linsey (newf), Bianca & Sonny (pyrs)  
http://www.jump.net/~janices/
Leander, TX