<<I would just like to add, for those who circulate the "Pumpkin Standard" around, to please credit the author, Belgian Tervuren owner/fancier and veterinarian, Libbye Miller, DVM.>>Kelley Hoffman Thanks Kelley. It came to me without a name. Tracy Bassett Canberra, Australia espinay@dynamite.com.au visit my webpage at http://members.dynamite.com.au/espinay/index.htm