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This is the new website being constructed by Ronda Trent for the next World
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Patric Lundberg" <pyrsrgr8@yahoo.com>
To: <pyrnet-l@pyrnet.org>
Sent: Friday, 22 December 2000 11:05
Subject: [pyrnet] Heredibility of recessives


> Joe,
>
> (and pardon me Linda for butting in)
>
> > An ever deminsihing number of
> > descendants each
> > generation will be at risk of 50%.
>
> With this statement you are assuming equal use of each dog at every
> generation, which we know is not the case.  I think one of Linda's
> points was that a popular sire can very quickly increase the carrier
> incidence in the population even if all his offspring subsequently are
> not used more than average.  However, each time a carrier from those
> lines happens to become popular and produce a larger number of
> offspring, the incidence in the population again jumps.
>
> So, with the assumption that future dogs are used to an equal level
> (that means approximately the same number in subsequent are used, and
> used to produce about the same number of offspring), *then* any time a
> popular stud is a carrier, then number of carriers takes a leap upwards
> in the population.
>
> Without doing some population modelling on this, we can't say when this
> accumulation would plateau, but my guess is that a simple recessive
> should accumulate until it reaches somewhere between 0-50% of the whole
> population being carriers.
>
> > I doubt there is a litter
> > from show stock in the USA that does not
> > have a dwarf carrier behing it somewhere.
>
> Show stock or not, this is probably true although there might just be
> some old CA lines that have a chance of being "clean" for this
> particular affliction.
>
> That said, I'd like to bring up a common saying among geneticists, that
> every individual carries around 5 severe genetic problems (most of
> which we would never have a clue is there, naturally).  So while you
> may think you are in the clear for one "invisible" trait, you are
> virtually guaranteed to have a few other problems lurking in the
> shadows...
>
> Patric
>
>
> =====
> "Sage Advice Improves with Thyme"
>
> Patric Lundberg, PhD
> patric@pyrealm.com
> Department of Virology
> City of Hope National Medical Center
> (626)359-8111 x2612
>
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