Re: [pyrnet] Pyrs without Dwarf producing ancestors

[SovreignPyrs@aol.com]

In a message dated 12/27/00 7:06:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
lmweisser@olywa.net writes:

<< When i ask questions, I'm told due to code of ethics, no one talks about
 anything.  In effect a gag order is in place, which will never move anyone
 forward.>>
 
 I frankly find this kind of bizarre.  As far as I know there is nothing in
 the Code of Ethics that prevents anyone from talking about genetic problems
 in a line.  >>

Sorry Linda, I have met many pyr breeders ovr the last 6 years, and I can 
tell you most refuse to discuss anything regarding any dog even within the 
same bloodline that they themselves have not owned or bred.   

While nobody may have been "running up to you" to tell you anything, have
you tried asking? 

Yes, and I will continue asking.   Well, guess what?  I already had my dogs 
before I ever knew dwarfism was a problem in the breed.   Just this week I 
hear that Heart problems exist in the breed.  So we all sit here waiting for 
the other shoe to drop so to speak.   What else is out there that I could 
have, that I don;t know about?  It boggles the mind.

Years ago, my grandfather bred English Foxhounds.  On importing stock into 
this country, you were at the mercy of the honesty of the exporter.   We're 
still very much in the same boat in many cases.  Well the Fox Hound is one of 
the healthiest breeds in existence today.  They did not compromise on 
anything regarding the health of the dogs.  The reason I share this bit of 
background  information is to tell you how many of the early breeders got 
around this problem. 
When my grandfather imported stock from England.  He always imported a dog 
and a bitch from the same lines.  His reasoning was that his first breeding 
of these dogs was to each other.  He preferred brother and sister.  He said 
that way if there were any genetic nightmares to unfold he knew right then 
and there for the most part.   He said he very quicly knew if someone was not 
being quite honest.  Now I admit this is a bit extreme, and we don't do 
things this way these days.  But think about it; by not making imformation 
somehow retrievable, it almost puts us back in the position of having to do 
that sort of thing to find out what is lying hidden in the backgrounds.  Now 
I'm not advocating anything here, merely trying to look at a problem from a 
different perspective.  I'd just rather not go nback to teh dark ages if 
there is a better way.

Sharon Hodgdon