RE: [pyrnet] neighbors.

[tom@edge.net (Thomas Snyder)]

It makes no difference.  I have four aussies, who would never hurt a cow
(and have raised at least one bottle baby goat), but would love to herd them
around all day.  That will kill pregnant cows or run the fat off a steer.
They're the farmer's source of income, and I really don't blame them.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pyrnet-l@pyrnet.org [mailto:owner-pyrnet-l@pyrnet.org]On
Behalf Of cari a mccullough
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 10:46 AM
To: pyrnet-l@pyrnet.org
Cc: pyrnet-l@pyrnet.org
Subject: Re: [pyrnet] neighbors.


good grief, tom! you are right. they even ascribe to this rule for
non-viscious dogs?

On Tue, 2 Jan 2001 19:56:00 -0600 tom@edge.net (Thomas Snyder) writes:
> We live in rural Tennessee.  The rule here is:  if a dog comes on your
> property, shoot it, bury it deep, and keep your mouth shut.  Any one
> of our
> neighbors will kill our dogs if they're found in with the cattle.
> If your
> neighbors only complain, consider yourselves lucky.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pyrnet-l@pyrnet.org [mailto:owner-pyrnet-l@pyrnet.org]On
> Behalf Of Sherri Artz
> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 11:39 AM
> To: 'pyrnet-l@pyrnet.org'
> Subject: RE: [pyrnet] neighbors.
>
>
> This neighbor situation is quite hard for me.  I am torn on both
> sides
> sometimes.
>
> I have a neighbor with two pyrs and a chow.  Shortly after we moved
> in, my
> fiancée was calling the sheriff about the dogs barking all night.
> They
> roamed free and barked all night. Then they were coming right on our
> front
> porch and peeing on our front door and new log chairs.  I never
> supported
> him calling the sheriff due to the barking because it was far enough
> away to
> me that it just didn't feel right (about 600 yards away).  Then one
> night I
> was sick and couldn't sleep and I finally knew what he had been going
> through (he is a somewhat light sleeper).  I was going nuts with them
> barking.  We live in the foothills about 30 miles outside of Boulder,
> Colorado and the mentality is "we moved to the mountains so our
> animals can
> run free and do as they please"  If they lived in a secluded area on
> 5 acres
> I would agree, but they have at least 4 neighbors within 300 yards.
> I still
> would never personally call the sheriff due to the barking but I do
> have a
> better understanding of the problem from the side of neighbor trying
> to
> sleep.  I would rather lose sleep than alienate the neighbors.  We
> tried
> talking to the neighbor and he said "yes, they are barking, that is
> what
> they have been doing for 5 years and that is what they are suppose
> to do".
> Anyway, our county is so screwed up, it has severe laws regarding
> barking
> dogs and especially dogs at large, but no one tracks to violations,
> therefore, it is easy to get out of violations.  I have always felt
> very
> uncomfortable about involving the sheriff until one of the pyrs and
> the chow
> which roamed free attacked a dog right in front of my house.  I
> didn't yet
> have  my pyr, but I knew once I did (it was in the works), anyone
> who was
> attacked by a pyr in front on my house would probably assume it was
> mine,
> and after seeing the dogs almost hit on the highway that lies 300
> yards away
> and after countless urine stains on my front door, mat and new log
> chairs I
> agreed to support my fiancée on the dog at large call.  Now I feel
> awful,
> the poor dogs are penned up all the time now.  They went from
> roaming free
> all the time to being penned up.  They are not allowed in the house.
>  One
> nice neighbor lady sometimes walks them with her dogs because she
> pities
> them.  Now one of my closest neighbor and my fiancée don't speak
> because,
> the neighbor was going to be witness for the owner of the barking
> dogs, even
> though he totally support our situation until the trail (which never
> happened).  Sometimes I think I would rather have the urine all over
> the
> front porch, my dogs barking at his dogs in my yard and a very grumpy
> fiancée so those dogs could have some freedom.  I am so torn over the
> situation.  I realize the problem is the irresponsible owner, but it
> the
> dogs that suffer.
> Sherri
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pacerized@aol.com [mailto:Pacerized@aol.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 01, 2001 9:41 PM
> To: pyrnet-l@pyrnet.org
> Subject: Re: [pyrnet] neighboors.
>
>
>   I'm sure neighbor problems and pyrs are common. I have just over
> 1/2 acre
> that is almost all fenced in, but our land is pie shaped so I have
> several
> neighbors in very close proximity. My closest neighbor is a couple
> in their
> early 60's that must be very sensitive to sound, because the only
> complaint
> I've had from them were while my dogs were inside my house. If you
> haven't
> tried a good anti-bark shock collar in your situation (and tried it
> properly), I would suggest it. They are totally humane, and in my
> case have
> made for happier neighbors, and I think in the long a happier
> quality of
> life
> for the dogs.
>      My only gripe in my neighborhood is with people who let their
> dogs run
> free. My neighbor behind me has a basset hound that runs free, and
> will come
>
> right up to my fence all the time, which in turn will make my dogs
> bark. I
> don't understand how anyone could just let their dog roam, let alone
> in a
> suburb with 3100 homes in it.  I would guess that at least 20% of
> the dog
> owners in my community do this, and their is an ordinance against it.
> Charlie
>
>
>
>
> yes, boone does jump the four-foot fence. well, i wouldn't call it
> jumping, exactly: that would be too lively a term. he really just
> stands
> up, leans forward over the fence, and lets his body weight do the
> rest.
> he will do this unless we are RIGHT next to him. if we stand at the
> top
> of yard and wait for him to do his business, he is gone.
> there is a creek down the street and a lake behind us, so he always
> comes
> home happy and muddy.
> most of the intolerant neighboors are dog owners. they have no idea
> how
> pig-headed this breed is as far as roaming. they think that because
> he
> gets out occasionally, that means we don't take care of him.
> one neighboor called the aspca (who had the good sense not to do
> anything) the week we tried an idea out of a pyr book that said to
> attach
> a drag. the dogs in that book had old tires hanging from sturdy
> collars
> to limit their ability to jump up. we knew that that would look
> strange,
> so we tried a metal pole about a foot and a half wider than the dog.
> this
> worked very well; boone stayed home and it was easy to attach to his
> collar as we let him out. problem solved until this woman started
> calling
> everyone in the neighborhood to tell them how awful and stupid we
> were.
> our neighbor on the other side said that if the dog barks one time at
> night, even from in the house, he will call the police and press
> charges.
> i have explained and explained, and apologized and BAKED!!! for these
> people. they see hubby working on the fence. they see us out back
> playing
> with the dog. they know we have already spent hundreds of dollars on
> fencing, but they are convinced it's us.
> and thus ends my rant. thank you for listening.
> cari from cincinnati
> and boonie
> p.s. no, we can't afford to move.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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