Um, Gordon? Are you sure that's Ginseng you're a digging? <vbg> Haven't seen this much traffic on the list in a while. Sure am might glad you're here Gordon! Perked up my whole day! Barb Bowes Bo & Chelsea (Pyrs), Flopsy (Pyr Shep) & Machin (Doxie) The more people I meet, the more I like my dog! bamb@monmouth.com