Popping hocks is OK for a house Pyr. Just not in the showring. I've never had one with popping hocks, so I'm not sure what the long term effects might be, anyone else know? Barb Bowes Bo & Chelsea (Pyrs), Flopsy (Pyr Shep) & Machin (Doxie) The more people I meet, the more I like my dog! bamb@monmouth.com