RE: [DL] Rules: Vamoosin'

["Jeff Yates" <jyates@primaryfunction.com>]

My interpretation was that the Vamoose roll did become the new TN, plus all
the modifiers that applied before.  Meaning that the Vamoose roll replaces
the base 5 of the TN.  And if you roll like me, you don't get better than a
five on any die and actually make it easier to get hit. ;-)

Now, if that's not actually in the rules, then this is the house rule we've
been using and we like it.

Jeff Y.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-deadlands@gamerz.net [mailto:owner-deadlands@gamerz.net]On
> Behalf Of Alan De Smet
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 3:56 PM
> To: deadlands@gamerz.net
> Subject: [DL] Rules: Vamoosin'
>
>
> As I understand Vamoosin' (specifically the case when you're
> getting shot at), after the player knows there is a bullet with
> his character's name on it, he can declare that he's Vamoosin'
> and burn his high card.  The player finds something to hide
> behind and makes a Dodge check.  If his Dodge check equals or
> beats the shooter's Shootin' check, the shot misses.  Otherwise
> he takes the injury.
>
> I have two concerns about this.  First, if interpreted as above,
> it's not possible to dodge only some of a burst.  It's all or
> nothing.  For example, a bad guy opens fire on our hero with a
> gatling pistol.  For various reasons, he only needs a 5 to hit.
> Unfortunately for our hero, the bad guy rolls a 15, 3 bullets
> hit.  Our hero, realizing that this is bad decides to dodge
> behind a convient barrel.  An unfortunate roll and a few chips
> later and our unlucky hero only rolls a 13.  Not enough to dodge
> entirely, so he suffers all 3 bullets.
>
> Perhaps it would make more sense for the Vamoosin' character's
> roll to become the new target number for the shooter.  Our hero
> up above would only take one bullet, not perfect but he's still
> happy he dodged.  It also means that a nasty shot with several
> raises will lose the raises.  Perhaps this is the intended way to
> handle it, but I'm not seeing it in the rules.  Any thoughts on
> this?
>
> Second, Vamoosin' seems unreasonably hard.  Dodging a
> barely-made-it hit (needed a 20 and rolled a 20) is just as hard
> as dodging a solid hit (needed a 5 and rolled a 20).  That
> doesn't seem quite right.  I've been thinking of tinkerin' with
> this rule.  One possibility is as suggested above dodge checks
> replace the shooter's target number.  In addition, apply all
> modifiers that that shooter suffered (range, movement,
> visibility, size, etcetera) to the roll.  Effectively, take the
> shooter's target number, subtract five and add the target's dodge
> roll.  My biggest concern is that it might make dodging _too_
> effective.  Anyone else tried anything similar?
>
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