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Re: [pyrnet] alpha position



Hi Dianne thank you so much .Noel is 2 years old Shadow will put up with a lot from her but I'm worried she has reached an age where she want's to be top dog.This morning when she did this to him he charged her and knocked her down and she yelled out .I did get very worried because her whole head seemed to be in his mouth,when I let out a yell he did back off but she went at him as soon has he let loose.Yet i have seen time's when she will wrap her legs around his neck and bring him down and he will lay there and not get up.Do you think I should just sit back and let the two of them work it out so long has they dont carry it to far.Shadow is 4 and Noel 2. I am just very worried one of them would get hurt.This is the first time in my life I have ever owned two dogs at once.I have always instilled in Noel that this was shadows home first and he comes first.            Peggy

----- Original Message -----
From: Steelmoment@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 5:08 PM
To: pyrnet-l@pyrnet.org
Subject: Re: [pyrnet] alpha position

Peggy,

My 4 mo. puppy bitch does the same thing.   I think that it is instinct for a
dominant dog to try - whether at this age or not they actually know what they
are doing is another ? for the long time pyr people here.   To watch a litter
of pups you will see this happen a lot - not all pups will do this.   Some
are dominant and some are submissive.

My 8 yr old  bitch will sometimes tolerate it and sometimes won't - I think
she can feel the difference when the pup is going too far.    She will let
the pup know and the pup will re-think her actions.   Is she challenging her
- I think if my bitch would let her have her way - the pup might grow into
thinking she's "top" bitch (I am the alpha).   Is she trying to figure out
where she ranks? - could be.    She does it with my male and he just walks
away from her.   She looks confused when he does this.   If she becomes
aggressive (charging him and jumping) he lets her know "that we don't play
that way here".   

Do either of them hurt her - no.   But I would caution when they play it can
be too rough and the pup could accidentally get hurt.   I do not leave my
male alone with her not because I think he would intentionally hurt her but
he is rather on the large size and does get over zealous and "It's all in fun
until someone gets hurt" (something like that?).   It's interesting to watch
all three play - my elder bitch comes in between the my male and the puppy.   
Maybe the list can share their thoughts on that scenario - I am afraid I
might give my bitch too much credit so I won't tell you MHO (vbg).

take care and it'll be interesting to hear the response
Dianne M. - Jersey Shore

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