Re: [pyrnet] Luxating patellas and other problems

[Jack & Charlotte Perry <pyreau@erols.com>]

Seems like we have been around and around on this dwarfism issue before,
and I think there comes a time when people simply have to agree to disagree.
I'm always interested in hearing about  problems in our breed that
I had not heard of (such as the eye problems).  I think that we should
do all we can to prevent any health problems.  I am also very concerned
about heart, PL and epilepsy.  As far a dwarfism goes, we had a bitch
that we discovered might be a carrier some 12 years ago.  In the end
we decided not to breed her (but we ran into a lot of disagreement on this
issue back then, too!   I really do not know why this is such
an emotional issue).   It is important for us to be aware of
health problems, but arguements over who knows best or which facts are
true seem just unpleasant and counter productive.

    It is interesting that you brought up the National Capital round table discussion.  I was there for that session and clearly remember what was behind that question.  Frankie Glover believed, at one point, that there was some sort of connection between patellar luxation and dwarfism.  I do not think that she ever had a dwarf puppy, but she believed from something her Vet. said that the puppy that did turn up with LP from her breeding somehow was a dwarf (even though it showed no signs of dwarfism).  I had never heard that theory before nor have I heard it since.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everyone!
Charlotte
 

JGentzel@aol.com wrote:

In a message dated 12/24/00 5:13:09 AM Pacific Standard Time,
lmweisser@olywa.net writes:
 
 

.  Better yet, if it was published, I would like a direct quote.
Otherwise, is it not all "hearsay"??
 

Thank you ever so much for asking for documentation. I agree, just on my word
alone, it would be hearsay. I reported it in my prior post this was published
in the International Great Pyrenees Review.

The Symposium was held October 14, 1977, Sponsored by the National Capital
Great Pyrenees Club.  Panelists were:

Mary Crane, Basquaerie
Paul Strang, Castellan
Frances Glover, Barqueill
Robert Brown, DVM, Starlaxy

DR Brown says:

"Chondroplasia is basically a Dwarfism complex.  I have seen one or two
Pyrenees that have had what I would classify as Chondroplasia and they indeed
had patellar luxation.  As far as I'm concerned, the patellar luxation that
these particular animals showed was not the biggest problem that they had."

My hope (prayer) is that all of you who believe these little dogs are normal
except just short will start reading objective information and look closely
at the sources and credentials of the source of the information.  IMHO, you
have your head in the sand to ignore the really credible information that is
out there.  It is there if you choose to look at it and objectively consider
same.

Joe