[pyrnet] More on Newman's "dangling participles"

[Rhonda Collins <rhonda@castlepublishing.com>]

Lene said:
The reason you have so many homeless dogs is not because it is =
> impossible to keep an intact male
> at home, but because the owners don't =
> try hard enough or maybe don't care enough to keep their males home. I
> =
> live in the middle of a very small village, there are several intact
> =
> males in the village, but I never have any of them visiting when my
> =
> bitches are in season, because people keep them home.=

I fully intend on keeping Newman home! Whether he is out ranging for a
bitch or just "out", he would still be in danger, and even if I
WEREN'T concerned about him  producing pups, I'd do my damndest to
keep him in for that reason alone. I'm much more concerned about the
inconvenience od it all.

>   At no
> time did I ever state that someone with an intact male was not a =
> caring owner. I think you need to reread my original posts. And in spite
> =
> of your experience I still maintain that there is no good reason to have
> =
> an intact male if you are not a qualified owner.
>   Marie, Valentino and angel Beau

I agree completely...now...just convince my husband. :-(

> I also had the same type of problem
> with Levi spraying and my vet 
> recommended the same thing and it worked like a charm!   A
> little spray 
> of Nature's Miracle and then make them eat there and presto!  no
> more 
> spraying!  Levi was not neutered until he was 3 (I had him for about
> 6 
> months and had been told he was neutered...) and had escaped to
> "visit" 
> the neighbors dog, who unfortunately went into heat 3 days before her
> spaying appointment!  Have you ever thought about what a Great Pyr
> and a 
> Weimaraner would look like?  While the puppies were the cutest (and
> funniest) looking things I ever saw it took quite a while to find the
> right homes for them.  Probably more so because I kept them until I
> suckered enough friends into keeping them so that I could always see
> them......
>
> However, I really like the idea of the Chihuahua collar....  I
> wonder if 
> it could be fixed in there and then every time they do something 
> completely stupid it would be just a little zzp!  They same dog is
> "mans" best friend but I think they really mean that they have
> the same 
> behaviors and should be trained they same way!  

ROFL!  Oh, my...a Pyr and a Lab?  What DID they look
like?  I think I said earlier that I bought Pet Sav'r and used it.
So far, he hasn't marked...at least not that I know of. Hubby may just
have cleaned it up and not said anything, wanting to avoid a fight. 
And yes, I definitely agree...men and dogs NEED to be trained the same
way. I just think I should've gone to Obedience School with mine!
:-(  Turkey.


> Gerry Koehler wrote:
> >You really shouldn't have a pet if
> you're not prepared to take care of it.<
>
> Rhonda,
>
> Jess isn't being cruel she is speaking from the heart.  And in truth
> I
> second her opinion.  Neutering is a 'must' for non-breeding
> stock.  I have
> no idea how long you have been married, but most wives learn how to
> work
> deals with their husbands.  If this is really import to you (as
> important as
> it is to Newman) then you will get him neutered, unless of course you
> a
> concerned about physical violence, in which case I strongly suggest you
> and
> the dog move out.
> I know a couple of really good divorce lawyers! Very good at taking 'the
> =
> pound of flesh, but not one drop of blood'.
>
> LOL
> Tea

Tea, I know that neither you, Gerry or Marie were being cruel, but no two
situations are the same. Number one, no...my husband is not violent. Just
a pain in the butt. Number two, not that it's anyone's business, but
we've been married over 32 years and have two grown children. I havent'
divorced him yet...never really wanted to, though I've been tempted to
kill him at least once or twice a week. Number three, what's important to
ME is that Newman not pee on my floors, thank you very much!  Fences
I think I can handle, even if it takes chaining him when there's a bitch
in heat somewhere, but peeing on the floor? NO.  As I said in a
previous post (which I haven't seen yet, for some reason), I am simply
not as convinced as many other people are that spaying/neutering is
something that's so very necessary for a dog's health. But his peeing on
the floor is not good for MY health! It makes me hypertensive and
downright nasty!


<<Understanding all of this and knowing this all along, what did
you seek from the list in the way of advise? 

Joe>>

Well, Joe...that sounds a bit sarcastic to me. Seems to me I was asking
for some nice, practical advice like the Nature's Miracle, and maybe some
emotional support from friends. What I DIDN'T ask for is sarcasm, advice
on my marriage, and negative comments on my sense of responsibility.

TO EVERYONE:

One thing that people on mailing lists--and in life in general need to
understand is that no situation has only "one view". I like to
say that everyone looks at life through different windows, thus we all
have a slightly different perspective.