Re: [pyrnet] Rescue/breeder "poll"

[Jack & Charlotte Perry <pyreau@erols.com>]

I agree with Chrissy.  If we bring them into the world, they are our
responsibility.  We once drove 6 hours one way to pick up a 7 yr old that the
owners "didn't have time for any more."  I think that the GPCA code of ethics
states that breeders are responsible for their pups for their lifetime.  That's
one reason we seldom ship pups.  I want to be able talk to the owners and see
the dogs often.  Of course when they come back for a "vacation" and howl day and
night , I sometimes wonder.
    On the other hand, another of our breeding was once turned in to a Pyr
rescue group in another state. They contacted us and we offered to go get the
dog but they said that they had a good home for her.  That time we did agree to
let them place her.  We did trust them to judge the new owners.  I'm not sure I
would feel that way about a shelter.
Charlotte

Chrissy McConnell wrote:

> The problem with this is, when we breed a litter and become breeders we must
> become Breeders with a capital "B" and take every precaution possible with
> the wellbeing of our pups and our breed at the top of our priorities along
> with trying to produce good tempered, sound, dogs to the standard which can
> do the job for which they were originally bred and hopefully measure up to
> the old greats like Estat (and several other) in the ring, working ability
> as well as a few that can go on to produce these qualities.
>
> Although responsible Breeders vary, some are not quite as "picky" as I am
> and some a bit more.  I personally still have a whole litter of six
> two-year-old Cockers (my other breed).  We're keeping two to show, one as a
> spayed pet just because she's so sweet but not quite structurally there,
> have one that is being placed after she's spayed and two more that I just
> haven't found the right homes for.
>
> Unless some of you own a more "popular" breed than the Pyr (which I hope
> they never get any more popular) then you probably have no idea what kind of
> calls come in asking about purchasing one.  I hope I never get a call for a
> Pyr because someone wants to cross it with something.  The two Cockers left
> will be spayed/neutered but some people just can't get it through their
> heads why they can't just have limited registration and breed this nice but
> less than breeding quality Cocker to a Poodle.  A "Cockapoo" is not a breed,
> it's a fancy name for a mixed breed.  Let's not go any further on this here
> but if anyone has any questions, feel free to e-mail me privately.
>
> As Breeders we are completely responsible for any and all dogs we produce
> for their entire lives.  I know things happen but I hope and pray I will
> always know if something goes wrong and be able to get the dog back.
>
> For those unfortunate dogs who are born to breeders who don't care after the
> sale, the rest of us have a duty to the breed to help those dogs.  They're
> still Pyrs and given the chance, most are great pets.
>
> Please don't think I'm attacking you Elaine, I just get a little worked up
> about this sort of thing.
>
> I don't want to go into a big long "thing" here so I'll just continue
> saying, Breeders are responsible for the dogs they produce.
>
> Chrissy
>
> Maple Way
> William H. Ingram, Jr. and Christina M. McConnell
> "Chrissy & Billy"
> Route 2, Box 30
> West Union, WV 26456
> (304) 873-2727
> chrissy_mcconnell@hotmail.com  (E-mail)
> http://www.zyworld.com/mapleway/Maple%20Way.htm (Website)
> http://www.zyworld.com/mapleway/Cocker%20Info.htm (Cocker Info page)
> http://www.zyworld.com/mapleway/Pyr%20Info.htm (Pyr Info page)
>
> In Loving Memory
>
> Meka
> Maple Way Avalon Juliet
> February 22, 1999 - December 5, 2001
> http://www.zyworld.com/mapleway/Meka.htm (Meka's Page)
>
>     From: "Elaine Ferreira" <ferreirae@earthlink.net>
> Reply-To: pyrnet-l@pyrnet.org
> To: <pyrnet-l@pyrnet.org>
> Subject: RE: [pyrnet] Rescue/breeder "poll"
> Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 22:09:54 -0400
>
> <<
>      Allow the local rescue organization to find the puppy a well-suited and
> checked- out home AND you pay appropriate expenses
>        Allow Rescue to place the dog and YOU pay NOTHING
> >>
>
> I am not a breeder, but I think it would be fair to do a combination of the
> two options above. Your ultimate goal is to place the dog in a good home. If
> the "Bangor" rescue org has a good record, I would let them place the pup
> with whatever help you can give them. Then I think a generous donation would
> be appropriate, say 25-50% of what the shipping costs would have been.
> Everybody wins!
>
> By the way, is the puppy a female? And is she really in the northeast?
>
> Elaine and Pico
>
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