RE: [pyrnet] HEALTH: long-term use of Deramaxx and Australian drugs

["Viney, Bethany" <Bethany.Viney@tdstelecom.com>]

I have had no problems with Rimadyl in treating arthritis or hip dysplasia
in any of my dogs (Mals, Pyrs).  However, its use does need to be monitored
regularly and very carefully and liver function tests must be administered
every 3 months with daily, long term use.  I had my mal Raisa, on 100mg
Rimadyl 2x day for her dysplasia and arthritis for a one month period with
no problems or side effects, and it works very well. With her improvement, I
only need to administer 1 tablet when I note she is feeling unusually stiff
and lame.  Price for Rimadyl is approximately $1.00 per tablet which I do
purchase directly from my vet.

Another alternative is adequan injections which Raisa also has been through.
There was marked improvement with (6) doses @ $36.00 per dose, and now only
needs a maintenance dose once every 3 months or so.

However, the most amazing improvement came when I did something I never
thought would work, but my vet recommended it.  I changed her dog food.
Within a couple days of being on Nutra Large Breed Dog Food with
Glucosamine, she was like an entirely different animal.  Both in physical
capability, personality, spunkiness, etc.  It has made a world of difference
and am also feeding it to my Pry, Czar.

Maybe the right combination of the above options may prove to assist with
Ivy, as this is what I found with Raisa.  Nutra also makes a Sr. dog food
which may help her as well.

Best of luck with Ivy.....I know how challenging and deeply concerning this
condition can be to treat.  

Beth, Czar and Raisa in Rural Wisconsin

-----Original Message-----
From: Shirley McGreal [mailto:smcgreal@ippl.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 11:11 AM
To: pyrnet-l@pyrnet.org
Subject: [pyrnet] HEALTH: long-term use of Deramaxx and Australian drugs


Our senior dog Ivy (aged 9) has a bad case of arthritis. She has been on 
1.5 deramaxx pills per day (cost, $1.80 per pill) for around two months. It 
seems to be very effective.

However, I am concerned about potential long-term side effects and wonder 
if any list members have had any dog(s) on long-term deramaxx therapy. Is 
there any kind of testing that should be done while Ivy's on this 
medication, and how often should it be done? Any good reference articles? 
Should any vitamins be used contemporaneously?

What alternative drugs are there? I am suspicious of rimadyl as I had a bad 
experience with our late Pyr Sebastien who developed the only case of adult 
onset megaesophagus in the Pyr health database, and which may or not have 
been linked to his use of rimadyl.

Also, the thread on another list about getting drugs from Australia was 
fascinating. I have already placed orders for Heartguard and Frontline! 
Assuming all goes well, I'll get six months supplies of each product for 
half of what I pay here, and the postage is included.

However, deramaxx is not available from Australia, apparently with or 
without a prescription. Does anyone have a suggested reasonable cost 
source? We were paying $3 per tablet ($4.50 per day for one and a half) 
until we called our vet who said he would meet the Internet price on a 
90-tablet bottle, but only for US prices. Still, $3 a day, though better 
than $4.50, is a lot of money so I would greatly appreciate any suggestions 
as to how to get a better deal for our wonderful senior citizen Ivy. I 
wonder what the vets are paying THEIR suppliers? Anyone know?

Shirley McGreal

Dr. Shirley McGreal, Chairwoman
International Primate Protection League
PO Box 766
Summerville, SC 29484, USA
Phone - 843-871-2280, Fax- 843-871-7988
E-mail - smcgreal@ippl.org, Web: www.ippl.org

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He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord 
would suffice."
         --Albert Einstein



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