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Re: Re: [pyrnet] Re: Pano and diet
I wrote:
<Oh butter vs. oil - I did mean margarine and look how many years <the Medical
<community said it was the better than butter!
But wanted to add one more thing....weren't there "scientific studies" that proved margarine was healthier to use than butter? Then there were more studies to disprove that......
BTW - if you can get a hold of Atkins earlier writings - he said margarine was bad for you prior to the studies stating it was better. I am not saying he was a genuis but he used "common sense".
Take care,
Dianne
>
> From: Blue Steel Great Pyrenees <bluesteel.greatpyrenees@verizon.net>
> Date: 2004/11/04 Thu PM 08:53:00 EST
> To: <pyrnet-l@pyrnet.org>
> Subject: Re: Re: [pyrnet] Re: Pano and diet
>
> Oh Linda was wondering when you would come out and play <vbg>!
>
> Atkins has been around for about 30 years the diet itself is not a fad but perhaps the "commerical" band wagon is....that remains to be seen. I do not think it's a miracle diet - it works for some and not others.
>
> Speaking of "commercial interests" - one would be foolish to think that the dog food industry doesn't play the same game. I noticed a lot more commerical foods marketing "use of fresh meats and vegetables" which is the basis for the BARF Diet (which btw I do not feed).
>
> Dr. Jean Dodds has been for years a big advocate that we over vaccinate our dogs - she has done her own studies (currently doing a study on blood levels for raw fed dogs). Many consider and still do consider her eccentric - however, folks started to listen. PEOPLE started to educate themselves and started sounding off as well. Doing titers and measuring antibodies of vaccinations can give you a good idea of just how long these vaccinations last in our dogs. Mind you each dog is different.
>
> I do not vaccinate as per the protocol but instead opted for the titers (annually) more expensive, yes, but to date my 10 year old male has not needed - distemper or parvo in over 7 years....same with my Murphy who we lost this year shy of 12 years old. Our pups had their first year and will also have titers as well. We do rabies because it is required by law, but we also do titers and I have been told that in some states (I do not know which ones) titers are sufficient coverage. I do realize where incidences are higher they need to more on top of coverage - that's common sense.
>
> Oh butter vs. oil - I did mean margarine and look how many years the Medical community said it was the better than butter!
>
> Take care,
> Dianne
> >
> > From: "Linda Weisser" <lmweisser@comcast.net>
> > Date: 2004/11/04 Thu PM 12:01:44 EST
> > To: <pyrnet-l@pyrnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: Re: [pyrnet] Re: Pano and diet
> >
> > I think that I may want to respond to some other parts of this thread but these two
> > things really got my attention!!
> >
> > <<Now the vaccination protocol for dogs have changed - first puppy shots are now
> > being encouraged to be given at a later time - here in Jersey it is at 8 weeks to
> > start them off with. Rabies vaccinations are also being changed from 3 to 6 years
> > here (not in effect yet).>>
> >
> > I think that the general shot protocol has changed in most places. Those
> > recommendations are coming out of vet schools. Rabies is an entirely different
> > issue. It is zoonotic and 100% fatal in humans once *any* symptoms appear. I
> > suspect that CDC would have some serious reactions to the extension of rabies shots
> > too far into the future. Current vaccines are proven good for 3 years although in
> > any place with a high rabies incidence (TX for example) dogs are vaccinated yearly.
> >
> > <<As far as nutrition goes - look at the Atkins story - this diet was introduced many
> > many years ago and was ridiculed. Now go to the store and see all the "Low Carb"
> > products....>>
> >
> > Yes, and most of that is fad and fancy and commercial interests deeply involved
> > again. It is useful to read the scientific and academic nutritional studies on low
> > carb diets. They probably won't kill you but they aren't any giant miracle either.
> >
> > <<Try eating one food for a long period of time and let me know how you feel. >>
> >
> > And?? Do you really mean ONE food, as in the great grapefruit diet? Well, of course
> > it makes you feel lousy. It lacks even simple balance.
> >
> > << I'm not being fresh but simply stating that nutrition does play a role. There
> > have been studies shown on programs such as 20/20 and 60 minutes over the years where
> > people in certain parts of the country eat more of certain foods because they are in
> > abundance and studies show either higher incidences of certain diseases or less>>
> >
> > Well, I'm not sure that 20/20 or 60 minutes is the place to gain accurate nutritional
> > evaluation but MOST Americans and most American dogs have reasonably balanced diets.
> > Optimal? Probably not. We could do better but it's not for the most part, a disease
> > issue.
> >
> > << The "fats" good and bad - olive oil vs. butter...is just one example.>>
> >
> > Or butter vs margarine. The fats issue is pretty simple. Cook with olive oil and eat
> > butter.
> >
> > Linda
> >
> >
> >
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