Re: Re: [pyrnet] Re: Pano and diet

["Linda Weisser" <lmweisser@comcast.net>]

Hi Barb,

I have put forward my *personal* story, not something global.  You say that you
"disagree".  I will presume that you are not calling me a liar and so I probably need
to say that I do not think that you can disagree with something presented as a purely
personal experience.

You can think what you want about food.  I just wanted to let the people out there
know that I had a long personal history that was different than what I often see as
the most common belief about food.

I think that I made the personal part of it very clear and I will quote something
that you yourself said in a nearly just prior post:

> So therefore  the evidence that it helps Pano is merely
> anecdotal. Perhaps we should not then discount anecdotal evidence?

> My point is, just because evidence is anecdotal, we should keep
> an open mind and not discount it. It just might help! But we should also
> weigh the benefits as well as the side effects very carefully

My personal and anecdotal evidence leads me to a different conclusion than the one
you put forward below.  I have many, many, many generations of dogs and I see no
deterioration in their overall health, their genetic problems or their life spans.
People are welcome to make what they wish out of my experience.  I am not trying to
browbeat anyone into agreeing.  As Joe just said about Albon.

As for pups.  I start weaning them at 3 weeks with puppy food soaked.   At 5 weeks I
start adding my standard kibble dry.  By about 9-10 weeks they are eating only that
kibble, always dry and never supplemented except under very unusual circumstances.  I
feed the same kibble to all my dogs from pups to adults to seniors and including
pregnant and nursing bitches.  My nursing bitches come off their litters generally
weighing *more* than when they got pregnant.

Again, all anecdotal and experiential.

Linda


----- Original Message -----
From: "Barb Bowes" <greatpyr@enter.net>
To: <pyrnet-l@pyrnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [pyrnet] Re: Pano and diet


Sorry Linda, I have to disagree here a bit. I believe (and this is only my
opinion) that poor nutrition over a number of generations, can cause
unhealthy offspring. Kibble, IMO is not really good nutrition, no matter
what the studies by the DF companies have to say. And they "are" the ones
that have set the standards and guidelines for what is proper nutrition for
dogs. And I do not feed a raw diet. Of course, there is more to longevity
than diet, but look at the diseases that are caused in people by eating a
poor diet. To some extent, sometimes greater and sometimes less, we are what
we eat. So are our dogs. Expensive and "designer" dog food do not good
nutrition make. It's the quality of the ingredients that concern me and
whether or not the processing of same deplete all the nutrients that have to
be added back in by using chemicals of one sort or another. And IMO, if you
are buying 44 lbs. of dog food for 20 bucks, you just ain't getting quality.
If you are getting high quality ingredients in that food, the company won't
be in business very long as they will be selling at a loss. But we all
digress here. So Linda, how do you feed your pups? Do you recommend adult
food or puppy?

Barb Bowes
Chelsea (Pyr)  Twister (Pyr)
Flopsy (Pyrenean Shepherd)
The more people I meet, the more I like my dog!
greatpyr@enter.net
http://www.penndutchrescue.org
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