I can settle it even better. I have a Colt Walker (it's a replica but still a Walker, damned heavy, wildly inaccurate, but makes a good club). At Sixty grains it will kill you or a tree, at eighty grains (the most I've ever used) if you hit it will kill you and the guy behind you and the tree. David Broussard (who much prefers the Remington Army 44 for cap'n'ball shootin)