Jan, what is that old saying? Oh yes, "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing." ROFL! But, I'd suggest that you are relatively safe unless the "wearer of the shorts" has a saw or a meat cleaver hidden about his person. <vbg> Barb Bowes Bo & Chelsea (Pyrs) & Flopsy (Pyr Shep) The more people I meet, the more I like my dog! bamb@monmouth.com